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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4974574" data-attributes="member: 2011">He's not supposed to. It's Plate.In the PHB, it was +11 to AC (+3 magic, +8 Plate), not +13 and only accessible to the Paladin without a feat.The elven archery ranger in Hide with +3 Hide, +5 Dex, +3 Magic = +11.At level 1, it was Ranger AC 17, Paladin AC 18.At level 11, it was Ranger AC 26, Paladin AC 26.The monsters are +10 to hit, the Ranger is +9 defense and the Paladin is +8 defense in 10 levels.Do you really think that someone in Hide should be improve in AC compared to someone in plate?But, the real problem is not level 11. It's mid-Paragon where this becomes real obvious.At level 15, it was Ranger AC 29, Paladin AC 27. The Ranger keeps climbing. The Paladin keeps falling behind.14 levels later, the monsters are +14 to hit, the Ranger is +12 defense and the Paladin is +10 defense. What's wrong with this picture?That was the problem that the heavy armor masterwork math fixes handled in AV and PHBII. With the fix:14 levels later, the monsters are +14 to hit, the Ranger is +12 defense and the Paladin is +12 defense.There will always be a slight descrepancy between light and heavy armors because they use two different equations.Light armor has a +4 boost due to level ability score increases, a +1 boost to Epic ability score gain, and a +2 boost to masterwork = +7.Heavy armor has a +6 boost to masterwork = +6.Light armor wins out in the long run anyway.You are focusing on one level and saying "Heh, Plate gets +13 here". Err, so. Hide gets +11 and Hide started one level lower. Plate gains a whopping 1 AC for levels 11, 12, and 13 (assuming the PC gets magic armor at level 11).That's not as bad as Hide gaining 1 AC on Plate at levels 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, and 13; and gaining 2 AC on Plate at levels 14 and 15. That's a lot more unbalanced.That's what was fixed.</blockquote>

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