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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 1174008" data-attributes="member: 3051"><p>Yeah, it's amazing how quickly the points add up, especially when you don't count short-duration magic. The problem is when you want to use Fabricate; tools and assistants don't really make any sense, so we don't allow it. But even so, it's still possible to get really high skill checks.</p><p>Mine's 15th level with ~12 ranks in my highest craft skills, plus 6 for high INT, plus 2 for my psicrystal, plus 2 from a ring I have, plus 3 for being a Crystalsinger 4, plus I can add up to 6 from a class ability for the custom PrC... so, when I cast Fabricate I can make some incredibly detailed items in a matter of rounds.</p><p></p><p>And it's not just a non-adventuring, making items for players thing. Read the Fabricate spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They don't really say what counts as "raw material". Can I use the enemy's steel door as raw material for a statue of myself? How about the (nonmagical) sword the bad guy is carrying?</p><p>(We house-ruled that any attended item can't be targetted, since like a magic item it'd get a saving throw.)</p><p>It's not really unbalanced, as a 5th-level spell that acts like Disintegrate but only on nonliving targets; turning that door into a statue is just as good as destroying it, except for the humor value. Besides, it's limited by the casting time (1 round per 10 cubic feet).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 1174008, member: 3051"] Yeah, it's amazing how quickly the points add up, especially when you don't count short-duration magic. The problem is when you want to use Fabricate; tools and assistants don't really make any sense, so we don't allow it. But even so, it's still possible to get really high skill checks. Mine's 15th level with ~12 ranks in my highest craft skills, plus 6 for high INT, plus 2 for my psicrystal, plus 2 from a ring I have, plus 3 for being a Crystalsinger 4, plus I can add up to 6 from a class ability for the custom PrC... so, when I cast Fabricate I can make some incredibly detailed items in a matter of rounds. And it's not just a non-adventuring, making items for players thing. Read the Fabricate spell. They don't really say what counts as "raw material". Can I use the enemy's steel door as raw material for a statue of myself? How about the (nonmagical) sword the bad guy is carrying? (We house-ruled that any attended item can't be targetted, since like a magic item it'd get a saving throw.) It's not really unbalanced, as a 5th-level spell that acts like Disintegrate but only on nonliving targets; turning that door into a statue is just as good as destroying it, except for the humor value. Besides, it's limited by the casting time (1 round per 10 cubic feet). [/QUOTE]
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