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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nagol" data-source="post: 6331829" data-attributes="member: 23935">Playing against expectation//convention works so long as the game system supports it.  You as a player are consuming finite space at the table.  Don't bring in something that will substantially undercut the other players by reducing their effectiveness and/or make the GM miserable. In other words, going against expectation takes more min/maxing (minimising the sacrifice, maximising the usefulness) because you as a player have chosen a sub-optimal starting point.Who's talking char-op?  I'm talking char-dis-op.If you want to go against expectation, the onus falls on you to understand the system well enough to know what sacrifices you are making and what sacrifice/risk this will cause the rest of the table.  So you should take some time to understand the math so you aren't the Richard at the table.I've had a player bring characters into a superhero game without an attack power (CHAMPIONS -- character's best attack was STR 10 punch/kick (same as a normal human for those that haven't seen the system).  I've had a player bring a deaf-mute killing machine into a game billed as intrigue/high-fantasy exploration adventure.  I've had a player exclaim "Neat! My DRT is lower than my off-hand dexterity" in an Aftermath character building session (DRT is the equivalent of hp and is typically 3-4 times the off-hand dex for those that haven't seen the system).I've had a player struggle with a fancy-fop of a fighter that refused to wear armour of any type -- at first level.  Well not the whole level, just for an encounter or two.  Then I had to tell the player to roll a new one because that one was dead.  Unfortunately, I had to make the same statement to 2 other players who wouldn't have lost characters in all likelihood if the first had been pulling his weight.</blockquote>

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