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<blockquote data-quote="Spatula" data-source="post: 1505569" data-attributes="member: 2198"><p>No story is ever finished. Stories are usually stopped when there's little to no point in continuing, but that's not the same thing.</p><p></p><p>When I first heard there would be sequels to the first Matrix movie, I said that it was a mistake. The first movie's story is that of the "birth" of the One. It tells that story and is finished. The details of the One's triumph over the machines is left untold, but that's not important. There's actually no real point in telling the "rest" of the story because the One is effectively a god and can't be stopped. He can manipulate the very fabric of the matrix. He comes back from the dead. We go into action movies knowing that the protaganist will defeat the bad guy and probably survive, but the suspension of disbelief that he might get taken out along the way still needs to be there. When the protaganist is invincible there's no suspension of disbelief and consequently no action.</p><p></p><p>The highway chase scene in Reloaded is a great action scene. Coincidentally, Neo is not involved until the very end, when he swoops in and saves the day in a very deus ex machina fashion. The Neo/Smith fight in Reloaded, on the other hand, is ***boring***. There's no danger, no excitement, and it just drags on and on.</p><p></p><p>Now, in Revolutions Neo has been removed from the matrix, which improves the situation immensely. And I actually like Revolutions as an action flick. The disappointment comes from the fact that it's pretty much just an action flick. All the interesting possibilities raised by Reloaded are completely ignored or dismissed out of hand (is the french guy a former "one", is the real world merely another level of the matrix, etc.).</p><p></p><p>Regarding the Oracle in the first film, I don't see how her presence is any harder to swallow than that of a messiah-figure. If you accept the existance of a super-powered savior, how is a fortune teller any different? As takyris says, the trappings are sci-fi but the character archtypes are straight out of fantasy stories.There's nothing in the first film that says she's a program. That fact, along with her motivations, is handed out in Reloaded. In the first film, what is she if not a mysterious soothsayer?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spatula, post: 1505569, member: 2198"] No story is ever finished. Stories are usually stopped when there's little to no point in continuing, but that's not the same thing. When I first heard there would be sequels to the first Matrix movie, I said that it was a mistake. The first movie's story is that of the "birth" of the One. It tells that story and is finished. The details of the One's triumph over the machines is left untold, but that's not important. There's actually no real point in telling the "rest" of the story because the One is effectively a god and can't be stopped. He can manipulate the very fabric of the matrix. He comes back from the dead. We go into action movies knowing that the protaganist will defeat the bad guy and probably survive, but the suspension of disbelief that he might get taken out along the way still needs to be there. When the protaganist is invincible there's no suspension of disbelief and consequently no action. The highway chase scene in Reloaded is a great action scene. Coincidentally, Neo is not involved until the very end, when he swoops in and saves the day in a very deus ex machina fashion. The Neo/Smith fight in Reloaded, on the other hand, is ***boring***. There's no danger, no excitement, and it just drags on and on. Now, in Revolutions Neo has been removed from the matrix, which improves the situation immensely. And I actually like Revolutions as an action flick. The disappointment comes from the fact that it's pretty much just an action flick. All the interesting possibilities raised by Reloaded are completely ignored or dismissed out of hand (is the french guy a former "one", is the real world merely another level of the matrix, etc.). Regarding the Oracle in the first film, I don't see how her presence is any harder to swallow than that of a messiah-figure. If you accept the existance of a super-powered savior, how is a fortune teller any different? As takyris says, the trappings are sci-fi but the character archtypes are straight out of fantasy stories.There's nothing in the first film that says she's a program. That fact, along with her motivations, is handed out in Reloaded. In the first film, what is she if not a mysterious soothsayer? [/QUOTE]
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