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<blockquote data-quote="KChagga" data-source="post: 1211643" data-attributes="member: 3679"><p>My main problem with the movie is that the idea was to free the people in the matrix. At least that was the point of the first movie.</p><p>At the end of Revolutions we have the Architect saying that those who want to be free will be set free.</p><p>The problem is these people are firmly entrenched in the matrix. They dont know that there is a freedom to be had. There aren't that many people who disbelieve the illusion of the matrix. This means that 99.5%(my guesstimate) of the human population will stay in the matrix.</p><p></p><p>People are still slaves.</p><p></p><p>The people are not free.</p><p></p><p>Let's look at the people who are free. The people in Zion. OK now they aren't at war with the machines. They live in a cave deep in the center of the earth. I don't believe it would be possible for them to live anywhere on the surface anymore. Even if they could they would be hiding out amongst the machines. They would have to live as the cockroaches of the enslaving machine race's society. </p><p></p><p>This is not freedom either. </p><p></p><p>These people are prisoners.</p><p></p><p>The main objective of the original movie is never met. It's not even moved towards(at least the way I see it). We are in almost exactly the same position that the movies started at. The conflict is not resolved.</p><p>The machines didnt even have to be beaten to make a significant conclusion.</p><p>Here is my version of how the end of the movie should have went.</p><p>Neo is jacked into the machine god directly. Neo uses his odd ability to destroy machines on the machine god. Being directly jacked into the machine god allows him to have a huge struggle with the machine god. Cue awesome special effects metaphysical mind battle here. Somehow Neo wins and the machine god is destroyed. Maybe well say this permanently damages the machines systems. Without their leader all of the machines are now directionless. The machines begin working as individual rather than a hive. Now humanity has a chance to fight back. Now people have not won the war, but they have the hope to be able to do so. You could still have the fight with Smith if you wanted, but that was really unnecessary to the plot of saving the people.</p><p></p><p>Back to the other stuff. With the people who want to be free being set free. Look at it this way do you really think there is anything that the rebels could do that would make anyone more than what they already were doing disbelieve the matrix. Think about if somehow walked up to you and told you that reality wasn't real and that everything you believe in doesn't exist, do YOU believe them. Of course not. Even if you see people doing unbelievable things you will just think that you are hallucinating or some such.</p><p>Well thats enough for now.</p><p>I did enjoy the movie, I just was really disappointed with the ending.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KChagga, post: 1211643, member: 3679"] My main problem with the movie is that the idea was to free the people in the matrix. At least that was the point of the first movie. At the end of Revolutions we have the Architect saying that those who want to be free will be set free. The problem is these people are firmly entrenched in the matrix. They dont know that there is a freedom to be had. There aren't that many people who disbelieve the illusion of the matrix. This means that 99.5%(my guesstimate) of the human population will stay in the matrix. People are still slaves. The people are not free. Let's look at the people who are free. The people in Zion. OK now they aren't at war with the machines. They live in a cave deep in the center of the earth. I don't believe it would be possible for them to live anywhere on the surface anymore. Even if they could they would be hiding out amongst the machines. They would have to live as the cockroaches of the enslaving machine race's society. This is not freedom either. These people are prisoners. The main objective of the original movie is never met. It's not even moved towards(at least the way I see it). We are in almost exactly the same position that the movies started at. The conflict is not resolved. The machines didnt even have to be beaten to make a significant conclusion. Here is my version of how the end of the movie should have went. Neo is jacked into the machine god directly. Neo uses his odd ability to destroy machines on the machine god. Being directly jacked into the machine god allows him to have a huge struggle with the machine god. Cue awesome special effects metaphysical mind battle here. Somehow Neo wins and the machine god is destroyed. Maybe well say this permanently damages the machines systems. Without their leader all of the machines are now directionless. The machines begin working as individual rather than a hive. Now humanity has a chance to fight back. Now people have not won the war, but they have the hope to be able to do so. You could still have the fight with Smith if you wanted, but that was really unnecessary to the plot of saving the people. Back to the other stuff. With the people who want to be free being set free. Look at it this way do you really think there is anything that the rebels could do that would make anyone more than what they already were doing disbelieve the matrix. Think about if somehow walked up to you and told you that reality wasn't real and that everything you believe in doesn't exist, do YOU believe them. Of course not. Even if you see people doing unbelievable things you will just think that you are hallucinating or some such. Well thats enough for now. I did enjoy the movie, I just was really disappointed with the ending. [/QUOTE]
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