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<blockquote data-quote="Darrin Drader" data-source="post: 1231519" data-attributes="member: 7394"><p>I just saw it tonight. Oh, where to begin...</p><p></p><p>First off, I'm looking at the whole series as a whole, not as 1 was better than 2, which was better than... but...</p><p></p><p>The Wachowski's wanted to tell a story and they told that story. I enjoyed Reloaded, and if there was any reason to be disappointed with it, its because it was just a tease of #3. That whole part where they go to Zion and I saw the armored suits and the grand landscapes, the whole time I was just thinking that I couldn't wait for all that to be used for something.</p><p></p><p>I knew at the end of the first one that the end would have to be fought outside of the Matrix. I wasn't surprised by that aspect of Revolutions.</p><p></p><p>I disagree with the notion that nothing has been resolved by the end. I have to applaud Warner Brothers for not providing the typical Hollywood ending. It actually aknowledges the fact that now the machines and humans have a complex relationship and you won't fix things by simply disconnecting from the machine. The machine became part of the ecology of Earth and without them the rest of humanity would probably die in the world as it was. </p><p></p><p>Revolutions establishes a few things about the nature of the world. In the first movie the assumption is that humans are traped inside but they can get out. In the third one you find out that the programs are as real and in possession of the same emotions as humans. That makes their eradication a much harder thing to live with. It also establishes that there are holes in the matrix that allow mechanical things to escape into the outside world. OK, nifty, right?</p><p></p><p>As for Morpheus being sidelined, you have to remember his purpose. He's John the Baptist. He's the visionary who comes before the messiah. You can summarize his function in the story as the guy who finds Neo. At the end of Revolutions his ship is destroyed and the only thing he has left is his faith. In Revolutions he is in a position where he is unable to pilot the ship because he can't fly it mechanically. There is nothing for him to do in the matrix after getting Neo away from the trian keeper. The most important thing he accomplishes is showing back up to Zion alive and then maintaining his faith in the messiah he believes in. The last thing he said to Neo was that the pleasure was always his, which is the type of thing John the baptist would have said to Jesus. The greatest action he could take in this movie was his inaction. It was beautiful.</p><p></p><p>So here's something that I'm surprised no one else has picked up on. Neo's heroic cycle mirrors Paul's in Dune (which is based on something out of mythology). In the first episode Neo unplugs from the matrix, sees the world for what it really is, meets the woman he loves, and essentially becomes a superhero. In Dune, Paul disconnects from the world he knows, takes the spice, and becomes a superhero in the form of Mua d'ib (please forgive the spellings since I know I'm getting it wrong). Matrix Relloaded is full of a bunch of action and exposition. I liked it, but in reality you could cut straight from 1 to 3 without 2 and it wouldn't detract from the story much. On the other hand it does show the "Continuing adventures of Neo," which is kind of cool. The last few minutes set up Revolutions. Finally, back on track, Neo has established his supremacy over the matrix, takes off with Trinity for the city of machines and is blinded by agent Smith in a meat suit. Even blind he can suddenly see the machines in the real world and has superhero-like powers over them. Paul in Dune gets blinded but is still able to see and has a much more understated but still heroic progression. Trinity dies. Paul's wife dies. Paul wanders out into the desert. Neo becomes one with the machine. The Matrix = the desert. Smith(s) = the Harkonens.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, those are my observations. I have a feeling that this trilogy will age very well and could even become the next Star Wars. It brings up a lot of philosophical questions that people don't seem to want to touch, but by ignoring them, you miss the brilliance of the movies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darrin Drader, post: 1231519, member: 7394"] I just saw it tonight. Oh, where to begin... First off, I'm looking at the whole series as a whole, not as 1 was better than 2, which was better than... but... The Wachowski's wanted to tell a story and they told that story. I enjoyed Reloaded, and if there was any reason to be disappointed with it, its because it was just a tease of #3. That whole part where they go to Zion and I saw the armored suits and the grand landscapes, the whole time I was just thinking that I couldn't wait for all that to be used for something. I knew at the end of the first one that the end would have to be fought outside of the Matrix. I wasn't surprised by that aspect of Revolutions. I disagree with the notion that nothing has been resolved by the end. I have to applaud Warner Brothers for not providing the typical Hollywood ending. It actually aknowledges the fact that now the machines and humans have a complex relationship and you won't fix things by simply disconnecting from the machine. The machine became part of the ecology of Earth and without them the rest of humanity would probably die in the world as it was. Revolutions establishes a few things about the nature of the world. In the first movie the assumption is that humans are traped inside but they can get out. In the third one you find out that the programs are as real and in possession of the same emotions as humans. That makes their eradication a much harder thing to live with. It also establishes that there are holes in the matrix that allow mechanical things to escape into the outside world. OK, nifty, right? As for Morpheus being sidelined, you have to remember his purpose. He's John the Baptist. He's the visionary who comes before the messiah. You can summarize his function in the story as the guy who finds Neo. At the end of Revolutions his ship is destroyed and the only thing he has left is his faith. In Revolutions he is in a position where he is unable to pilot the ship because he can't fly it mechanically. There is nothing for him to do in the matrix after getting Neo away from the trian keeper. The most important thing he accomplishes is showing back up to Zion alive and then maintaining his faith in the messiah he believes in. The last thing he said to Neo was that the pleasure was always his, which is the type of thing John the baptist would have said to Jesus. The greatest action he could take in this movie was his inaction. It was beautiful. So here's something that I'm surprised no one else has picked up on. Neo's heroic cycle mirrors Paul's in Dune (which is based on something out of mythology). In the first episode Neo unplugs from the matrix, sees the world for what it really is, meets the woman he loves, and essentially becomes a superhero. In Dune, Paul disconnects from the world he knows, takes the spice, and becomes a superhero in the form of Mua d'ib (please forgive the spellings since I know I'm getting it wrong). Matrix Relloaded is full of a bunch of action and exposition. I liked it, but in reality you could cut straight from 1 to 3 without 2 and it wouldn't detract from the story much. On the other hand it does show the "Continuing adventures of Neo," which is kind of cool. The last few minutes set up Revolutions. Finally, back on track, Neo has established his supremacy over the matrix, takes off with Trinity for the city of machines and is blinded by agent Smith in a meat suit. Even blind he can suddenly see the machines in the real world and has superhero-like powers over them. Paul in Dune gets blinded but is still able to see and has a much more understated but still heroic progression. Trinity dies. Paul's wife dies. Paul wanders out into the desert. Neo becomes one with the machine. The Matrix = the desert. Smith(s) = the Harkonens. Anyway, those are my observations. I have a feeling that this trilogy will age very well and could even become the next Star Wars. It brings up a lot of philosophical questions that people don't seem to want to touch, but by ignoring them, you miss the brilliance of the movies. [/QUOTE]
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