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Matt Colville, and Most Tolkien Critics, Are Wrong
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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7545901" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Wonderfully put! You expressed much better than I the effect of modern media (and postmodernism defines much of modern story telling, which is why I brought it up) on readers' attitudes toward a fictional than I did. Thank you. </p><p></p><p>I will say, though, that I don't think it's just TV and short-form programming. People are, more and more, enjoying long form programming, after all, and TV shows are becoming more and more serialized rather than purely episodic. As well, movies become longer and longer, and in fact the LoTR movies were enormous films without any lack of popularity. </p><p></p><p>I think that part of it is the effect of writers like Hemingway, and the growing ideal of brevity as a Good in writing. I once had a creative writing teacher tell me that Tennyson was garbage, because he couldn't get to the bloody point! An extreme case, but certainly tastes began to shift toward brevity before the ubiquity of the home television set. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have grown very fond of giving some of those queus, and then asking a player who hasn't spoken up in a bit what else they see, smell, hear, or otherwise notice in the space. </p><p></p><p>Also, I will often tell them that there are X people in the room, Y of them are of Z categorization, and ask them who they are. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I love that, had forgotten it, and now am going to have to reread the trilogy. I just reread Kay's Tigana and Fionavar Tapestry, and am reading something new that I am blank on the name of ATM, but I'll have to fit LoTR in after that. </p><p></p><p>Moments like that bring us into the novel, alongside the characters, and help us understand them. This is why i scoff at people who claim there is little character development in the work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7545901, member: 6704184"] Wonderfully put! You expressed much better than I the effect of modern media (and postmodernism defines much of modern story telling, which is why I brought it up) on readers' attitudes toward a fictional than I did. Thank you. I will say, though, that I don't think it's just TV and short-form programming. People are, more and more, enjoying long form programming, after all, and TV shows are becoming more and more serialized rather than purely episodic. As well, movies become longer and longer, and in fact the LoTR movies were enormous films without any lack of popularity. I think that part of it is the effect of writers like Hemingway, and the growing ideal of brevity as a Good in writing. I once had a creative writing teacher tell me that Tennyson was garbage, because he couldn't get to the bloody point! An extreme case, but certainly tastes began to shift toward brevity before the ubiquity of the home television set. I have grown very fond of giving some of those queus, and then asking a player who hasn't spoken up in a bit what else they see, smell, hear, or otherwise notice in the space. Also, I will often tell them that there are X people in the room, Y of them are of Z categorization, and ask them who they are. I love that, had forgotten it, and now am going to have to reread the trilogy. I just reread Kay's Tigana and Fionavar Tapestry, and am reading something new that I am blank on the name of ATM, but I'll have to fit LoTR in after that. Moments like that bring us into the novel, alongside the characters, and help us understand them. This is why i scoff at people who claim there is little character development in the work. [/QUOTE]
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