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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9323133" data-attributes="member: 29398">If they had fun in the moments of the char-gen process and the play as long as it lasted, the time wasn't wasted.Did I waste my time playing the last character I ran in the rogue-like computer game I play?  Not at all.  Even though it died (and they all do, I've yet to beat the game) I still had fun keeping it going as long as it did, and thus the time wasn't* wasted.* - in my view; those who think I should be doing something more productive might see it differently. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Not quite.  I'm "selecting hard" for players who are willing and able to accept the losses with the wins.A setback is a setback.  The difference is that an in-character setback stays in character and can be dealt with there, while losing a character outright is a setback at the table level.This last I assume for all.  Sometimes, though, your efforts to keep said character alive are going to fail no matter what you do; dice can be nasty things.Someone giving up or getting excessively upset by setbacks, where setbacks are a known part of the game, can't IMO look anywhere but the mirror to sort it.Yes, in that case I do need to change something up: the players at the table.I can handle a game-wrecker far more easily than a tantrum-thrower (I've had one or two of these).True, some adventures don't work out; often enough the players will let me know out-of-character, and I'm glad they do.  If someone's unhappy with their character they're always free to retire it and bang out something new - I encourage my players to have a stable of characters in the setting, so if they get bored playing one they can - at the next reasonable in-game opportunity - cycle in another.Fair enough.Indeed; and I haven't DMed anyone under 20 in a very long time.  That said, college-age players can be the best in that their play often boils down to high intelligence, low wisdom. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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