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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 9790900" data-attributes="member: 2013"><p>I'm reminded of a post I saw on Facebook prior to the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election:</p><p></p><p>"Before you 'discuss' with me how <em>I</em> should vote in the election, I first need you to lay out what circumstances would change <em>your </em>mind. If the answer is 'there are none' then you don't want to 'discuss' the election, you want to yell at me, and I'm not here to be yelled at." (Note: There was no indication I could find of his political leanings, so this wasn't an "I'm right, change my mind" post but instead a plea for actual thoughtful discourse).</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure I can agree with this statement ("discussion has connotations of formality and seriousness"). I find more appealing the suggestion that the distinction between "discussion" and "conversation" is that "discussion" is generally used to describe an exchange (usually verbal) among parties that focuses on a specific topic, while "conversation" is generally used to describe exchanges among parties that do not focus on a single topic.</p><p></p><p>If I tell my friend I had a <em>conversation </em>with my wife yesterday, that will probably be the end of it. If I tell my friend I had a <em>discussion </em>with my wife yesterday, the friend is likely to follow up with "about what?"</p><p></p><p>But back to the original point of this thread, which was a discussion focused on Matt's video about community, I took the time to watch it and I agree with many of his points about the need to consciously create a community through moderation. I was reminded of a post regarding "Designing For Evil" wherein a discussion of some of the practical "hows" to be considered when attempting to moderate a community are discussed - found at <a href="https://kingofnovember.com/2015/04/designing-for-evil/" target="_blank">Designing for Evil</a> - and I think anyone who wants to curate a community will find some good items there (and probably also some useless stuff), but if Matt's video is about "theory" of community curation, this post seems to be more about the "practice" of curation.</p><p></p><p>As someone that remembers UseNet (and its lack of moderation), I am convinced that there is truth to the assertion that a good community does not happen by accident; it is created and maintained only by deliberate and sustained moderation. So, uh, thanks Mods, for making this a place I keep coming back to more than two decades after I found it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 9790900, member: 2013"] I'm reminded of a post I saw on Facebook prior to the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election: "Before you 'discuss' with me how [I]I[/I] should vote in the election, I first need you to lay out what circumstances would change [I]your [/I]mind. If the answer is 'there are none' then you don't want to 'discuss' the election, you want to yell at me, and I'm not here to be yelled at." (Note: There was no indication I could find of his political leanings, so this wasn't an "I'm right, change my mind" post but instead a plea for actual thoughtful discourse). I'm not sure I can agree with this statement ("discussion has connotations of formality and seriousness"). I find more appealing the suggestion that the distinction between "discussion" and "conversation" is that "discussion" is generally used to describe an exchange (usually verbal) among parties that focuses on a specific topic, while "conversation" is generally used to describe exchanges among parties that do not focus on a single topic. If I tell my friend I had a [I]conversation [/I]with my wife yesterday, that will probably be the end of it. If I tell my friend I had a [I]discussion [/I]with my wife yesterday, the friend is likely to follow up with "about what?" But back to the original point of this thread, which was a discussion focused on Matt's video about community, I took the time to watch it and I agree with many of his points about the need to consciously create a community through moderation. I was reminded of a post regarding "Designing For Evil" wherein a discussion of some of the practical "hows" to be considered when attempting to moderate a community are discussed - found at [URL="https://kingofnovember.com/2015/04/designing-for-evil/"]Designing for Evil[/URL] - and I think anyone who wants to curate a community will find some good items there (and probably also some useless stuff), but if Matt's video is about "theory" of community curation, this post seems to be more about the "practice" of curation. As someone that remembers UseNet (and its lack of moderation), I am convinced that there is truth to the assertion that a good community does not happen by accident; it is created and maintained only by deliberate and sustained moderation. So, uh, thanks Mods, for making this a place I keep coming back to more than two decades after I found it. [/QUOTE]
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