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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3649532" data-attributes="member: 35788">Yes, but you can't boil in 2D.  In fact, I can imagine many holes more thin than the volume of water needed to actually boil (and not merely evaporate away).  At the very least, bubbles are spherical, implying 3D.  At which point, how much of the surface bubbles?  At what random interval are you going to allow 2D to become 3D just to allow for the stated example?Now, I'm slightly overstating the question to suggest that there is absolutely nothing wrong with accepting that in certain circumstances (like boiling water) that it might not be able to be a 2D spell.  Rather than waste time at the table arguing about the rules ... as a DM I'd see that the spirit of the rules would seem to suggest that it would work on some volume of water.As a player, I'd also completely accept what I think is a fair conclusion that the power works on the "arbitrarily thin" amount of water and that water drains away.  The power can still work on the water that has melted away, but the power cannot be shifted to a new chunk of ice.  As a player, I would accept that as a fair interpretation of the rules for a first level power.But then again, if I wanted to melt ice legitimately I'd do as Nifft already suggested.  Heat something metal and melt the ice away.  There's the money answer.</blockquote>