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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8430046" data-attributes="member: 86653"><p>I think monsters are undertuned in 5E. By quite a lot. Max PC hit points would only make the problems of the edition worse.</p><p></p><p>Monsters should have more hit points, more actions, and do more damage. Across the board. Legendary and Mythic monsters help, but only a little. But even they are undertuned. And the problem only gets worse as you level.</p><p></p><p>I’m not sure about max hit points for monsters, but they should have at least 25% more than the listed average. And even that is likely lowballing.</p><p></p><p>The game is balanced on the idea that you’ll have 6-8 medium encounters per day with a short rest after every two encounters and a long rest after the 6-8. That’s what class abilities assume. So if you have fewer fights per day, daily resource characters get more powerful while short rest resource characters get less powerful.</p><p></p><p>One thing I’m doing is letting characters take a short rest as an action, though I’m thinking it might even need to be a bonus or free action, and using the daily XP chart to determine encounters.</p><p></p><p>I tried a CR2 creature with buffed attacks, damage, and hit points against a non-optimized 1st-level party. What should have been a more than deadly encounter was a 3 and 1/3 round slaughter...of the monster. The PCs barely broke a sweat and one character went down twice. There was nothing wild or extraordinary about the spells used, dice rolled, or damage caused. It was just a cakewalk.</p><p></p><p>Max hp for both sides would have made it take longer. That’s all. And the one character who went down probably wouldn’t have. So even less of a challenge than it already wasn’t.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8430046, member: 86653"] I think monsters are undertuned in 5E. By quite a lot. Max PC hit points would only make the problems of the edition worse. Monsters should have more hit points, more actions, and do more damage. Across the board. Legendary and Mythic monsters help, but only a little. But even they are undertuned. And the problem only gets worse as you level. I’m not sure about max hit points for monsters, but they should have at least 25% more than the listed average. And even that is likely lowballing. The game is balanced on the idea that you’ll have 6-8 medium encounters per day with a short rest after every two encounters and a long rest after the 6-8. That’s what class abilities assume. So if you have fewer fights per day, daily resource characters get more powerful while short rest resource characters get less powerful. One thing I’m doing is letting characters take a short rest as an action, though I’m thinking it might even need to be a bonus or free action, and using the daily XP chart to determine encounters. I tried a CR2 creature with buffed attacks, damage, and hit points against a non-optimized 1st-level party. What should have been a more than deadly encounter was a 3 and 1/3 round slaughter...of the monster. The PCs barely broke a sweat and one character went down twice. There was nothing wild or extraordinary about the spells used, dice rolled, or damage caused. It was just a cakewalk. Max hp for both sides would have made it take longer. That’s all. And the one character who went down probably wouldn’t have. So even less of a challenge than it already wasn’t. [/QUOTE]
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