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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 1107637" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Skills should not be less effective than spells of equivelent level and devotion.</p><p></p><p>What I mean by this is that you shouldn't be able to do more with a 9th level spell than you could do (in that field) with, say, a 90 check with a skill.</p><p></p><p>The spellcaster has devoted pretty much everything to getting to that level of power. If a character devotes that same amount of time and effort and lost opportunities for other abilities to a skill, it should seem just as incredible as a spell.</p><p></p><p>I see no reason why people's ability to suspend disbelief is challenged when it comes to skill use, but not spell use or sword use. This is a high fantasy game. High fantasy doesn't just mean high magic, it means amazing things across the board. Indiana jones is able to climb beneath the rapidly moving truck and come out the back to kill the bad guys...and he does it with a high skill check, not magic. The Tomb Raider is able to leap off a tall building using just tiny bat-like gliders, and survive the fall due to her skill with those crazy things. </p><p></p><p>And yes, your rogue is able to convince someone that the sky is really green, it's just a trick of the light that makes it seem blue, but if you look juuuust right...see, the sky really is green!</p><p></p><p>And yes, the Lich can be persuaded that their stated goals will not really gain them the satisfaction they are looking for in undeath, that there is a better, more fulfillng way. That everlasting life will be more self-actualizing if they change their goal to something else.</p><p></p><p>YOU cannot do these things...but your character, who is incredible in ways you and I have never even thought of or seen in real life, THEY can do these things...and they know how.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 1107637, member: 2525"] Skills should not be less effective than spells of equivelent level and devotion. What I mean by this is that you shouldn't be able to do more with a 9th level spell than you could do (in that field) with, say, a 90 check with a skill. The spellcaster has devoted pretty much everything to getting to that level of power. If a character devotes that same amount of time and effort and lost opportunities for other abilities to a skill, it should seem just as incredible as a spell. I see no reason why people's ability to suspend disbelief is challenged when it comes to skill use, but not spell use or sword use. This is a high fantasy game. High fantasy doesn't just mean high magic, it means amazing things across the board. Indiana jones is able to climb beneath the rapidly moving truck and come out the back to kill the bad guys...and he does it with a high skill check, not magic. The Tomb Raider is able to leap off a tall building using just tiny bat-like gliders, and survive the fall due to her skill with those crazy things. And yes, your rogue is able to convince someone that the sky is really green, it's just a trick of the light that makes it seem blue, but if you look juuuust right...see, the sky really is green! And yes, the Lich can be persuaded that their stated goals will not really gain them the satisfaction they are looking for in undeath, that there is a better, more fulfillng way. That everlasting life will be more self-actualizing if they change their goal to something else. YOU cannot do these things...but your character, who is incredible in ways you and I have never even thought of or seen in real life, THEY can do these things...and they know how. [/QUOTE]
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