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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5175585" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>More importantly, look at this language:</p><p></p><p>'"Corellon’s Implement (11th level): Choose an arcane implement that you specialize in, whether the wand, staff, or orb. You can use a longsword as if it were that type of arcane implement when casting your spells." (Wizard of the Spiral Tower, PHB)</p><p></p><p>If Cure Light Wounds does not benefit from Healing Lore, then that tears apart a LARGE number of the rules fabric regarding sarrogate or substitution-based powers and abilities. The precident becomes: "Using something as if it were that thing does not mean that you benefit from that thing."</p><p></p><p>That means that Corellon's Implement now means that if you use a long sword to use your arcane powers, you no longer are able to use your Implement Mastery for that chosen implement; it's pretty clear however the intention behind this is that you ARE able to do so.</p><p></p><p>Such a ruling extends behind Cure Light Wounds; it actually tears apart a number of rules in the game. In other words, it breaks 4e.</p><p></p><p>That's why the ruling cannot stand, if it does, 4th edition breaks; I don't disagree with the intent of the ruling, but either Healer's Lore needs re-errata, or every 'foo as if bar' ability in the game would have to be errata'd to do what they're supposed to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5175585, member: 71571"] More importantly, look at this language: '"Corellon’s Implement (11th level): Choose an arcane implement that you specialize in, whether the wand, staff, or orb. You can use a longsword as if it were that type of arcane implement when casting your spells." (Wizard of the Spiral Tower, PHB) If Cure Light Wounds does not benefit from Healing Lore, then that tears apart a LARGE number of the rules fabric regarding sarrogate or substitution-based powers and abilities. The precident becomes: "Using something as if it were that thing does not mean that you benefit from that thing." That means that Corellon's Implement now means that if you use a long sword to use your arcane powers, you no longer are able to use your Implement Mastery for that chosen implement; it's pretty clear however the intention behind this is that you ARE able to do so. Such a ruling extends behind Cure Light Wounds; it actually tears apart a number of rules in the game. In other words, it breaks 4e. That's why the ruling cannot stand, if it does, 4th edition breaks; I don't disagree with the intent of the ruling, but either Healer's Lore needs re-errata, or every 'foo as if bar' ability in the game would have to be errata'd to do what they're supposed to do. [/QUOTE]
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