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May there be non-evil societies of always evil races? What would they be like?
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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 6456550" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>First, that is a campaign world-specific question, which depends on:</p><p></p><p>1) whether or not orcs are innately and irrevocably evil (essentially, the starting point of this thead)</p><p></p><p>And </p><p></p><p>2) whether the Paladin in question is an "Old-Testament"/talion law or "New Testament" style holy warrior. While both are the sword-arms of their divine patrons, the latter is expected to be merciful and values conversion of his foes. The former is asked to kill much more frequently and with fewer exceptions, and has his god's favor for actions in his/her/its service up to and including genocide.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Assuming orcs are not innately and irrevocably evil, etc., the simple answer is it depends on a wide variety of factors.</p><p></p><p>How many good orcs survive to reproduce vs those who get killed by their own people, possibly in the style of Spartan society? Did the evil orcs attempt and succeed with a genocide of the good ones? Was the first settlement of good orcs wiped out by a natural disaster or disease or any of the other hazards of life in a fantasy world?</p><p></p><p>Were all of the good orcs in the same area, and if so, why? If not, how did they reach a critical mass of population to create such a civilization?</p><p></p><p>IOW, it is essentially the same question as "Why have we not found extant Neanderthal civilizations in the modern era?" (Or even just as recently as the Middle Ages?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 6456550, member: 19675"] First, that is a campaign world-specific question, which depends on: 1) whether or not orcs are innately and irrevocably evil (essentially, the starting point of this thead) And 2) whether the Paladin in question is an "Old-Testament"/talion law or "New Testament" style holy warrior. While both are the sword-arms of their divine patrons, the latter is expected to be merciful and values conversion of his foes. The former is asked to kill much more frequently and with fewer exceptions, and has his god's favor for actions in his/her/its service up to and including genocide. Assuming orcs are not innately and irrevocably evil, etc., the simple answer is it depends on a wide variety of factors. How many good orcs survive to reproduce vs those who get killed by their own people, possibly in the style of Spartan society? Did the evil orcs attempt and succeed with a genocide of the good ones? Was the first settlement of good orcs wiped out by a natural disaster or disease or any of the other hazards of life in a fantasy world? Were all of the good orcs in the same area, and if so, why? If not, how did they reach a critical mass of population to create such a civilization? IOW, it is essentially the same question as "Why have we not found extant Neanderthal civilizations in the modern era?" (Or even just as recently as the Middle Ages?) [/QUOTE]
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