Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
"...may use this instead of a basic melee attack"
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Zephyrus" data-source="post: 4607230" data-attributes="member: 8728"><p>Martial Power introduced a lot more of these type powers and I'm wondering exactly what kind of interaction those powers that allow you to substitute a power in place of a basic melee when you charge especially interact with feats and other abilities that trip off a charge.</p><p></p><p>For example Rhino Strike can be used in place of the Basic Melee when a character charges.</p><p></p><p><em>.....<strong>1 )</strong> Do feats (such as Powerful Charge) that key off a Charge still grant their benefit (such as bonus damage from Powerful Charge) when the character is able to use a power in place of the basic melee attack a charge normally grants?</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>.....<strong>2 )</strong> Does the character still get the +1 bonus to hit from charging (or does the power being used in place of the basic melee over ride that aspect of a charge)?</em></p><p></p><p>I personally can see it interpreted both ways but I'm sure their should be some supporting RAW to determine the answers. </p><p></p><p>My Personal impression on the first question is that even though the attack power function of a charge is being swapped (a specific Class power in place of a Basic Melee) the Attack as a whole is still under the umbrella of a "Charge" and would get the bonus effects based on a charge (and subsequently end the players turn per a Charge as well unless the substituted Power or some other effect said otherwise).</p><p></p><p>On the Second question however I'm not so sure of. One part of me says that its a function of the basic melee attack that gets the +1 bonus to hit, another part says that the +1 bonus is a function a Charge and replacing the basic melee doesn't take that benefit away and it carries over to stack with whatever attack bonus the substituting power would have. I'm inclined to learn toward the former (bonus goes away when you substitute the power for the basic melee) but the latter seems probable as well. </p><p></p><p>I am interested in whatever insight anyone might be able to shine on this especially if they can support their view with RAW references (not that I want to shoot down peoples opinions, but a RAW supported view is what I am after, my problem is that I don't have a RAW supported view).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zephyrus, post: 4607230, member: 8728"] Martial Power introduced a lot more of these type powers and I'm wondering exactly what kind of interaction those powers that allow you to substitute a power in place of a basic melee when you charge especially interact with feats and other abilities that trip off a charge. For example Rhino Strike can be used in place of the Basic Melee when a character charges. [I].....[B]1 )[/B] Do feats (such as Powerful Charge) that key off a Charge still grant their benefit (such as bonus damage from Powerful Charge) when the character is able to use a power in place of the basic melee attack a charge normally grants? .....[B]2 )[/B] Does the character still get the +1 bonus to hit from charging (or does the power being used in place of the basic melee over ride that aspect of a charge)?[/I] I personally can see it interpreted both ways but I'm sure their should be some supporting RAW to determine the answers. My Personal impression on the first question is that even though the attack power function of a charge is being swapped (a specific Class power in place of a Basic Melee) the Attack as a whole is still under the umbrella of a "Charge" and would get the bonus effects based on a charge (and subsequently end the players turn per a Charge as well unless the substituted Power or some other effect said otherwise). On the Second question however I'm not so sure of. One part of me says that its a function of the basic melee attack that gets the +1 bonus to hit, another part says that the +1 bonus is a function a Charge and replacing the basic melee doesn't take that benefit away and it carries over to stack with whatever attack bonus the substituting power would have. I'm inclined to learn toward the former (bonus goes away when you substitute the power for the basic melee) but the latter seems probable as well. I am interested in whatever insight anyone might be able to shine on this especially if they can support their view with RAW references (not that I want to shoot down peoples opinions, but a RAW supported view is what I am after, my problem is that I don't have a RAW supported view). [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
"...may use this instead of a basic melee attack"
Top