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<blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 324172" data-attributes="member: 518"><p>I understand Flexor...I don't think GH ports well to 3E whether it's offical or not.</p><p></p><p>That being said, WOTC has really turned the Realms around. They have fixed alot of the "problems" that many people had with the setting in the last 6 or 7 years of it's life under 2E rules. I can't say that I like EVERYTHING they did...but IMO it's an improvement to the majority of the 2E era (my personal fave "generation" of the Realms is prior to 2E, but that's me).</p><p></p><p>And yes Scarred Lands is cool, I've bought a few items in the past, and even thought of running a campaign..but eventually sold it..I simply did not like having references to 5 other books for monsters, and gods, and PRclasses, and..etc. Points for FR as all supplements aren't referenced (other than the Monsters of Faerun, and even when they do reference those monsters, they give substitutes for those who might not have it).</p><p></p><p>Kalamr would be my first choice..it's a bit lower magic than either GH or FR but is rich in detail.</p><p></p><p>AGain though, your problem is that these are ALL deisgned around 3E/D20...so you will see Dwarven monks, and half-orc sorcerors and all that "3E attitude" stuff.</p><p></p><p>Don't feel bad about switching systems though..if everyone agrees go for it...</p><p></p><p>Personally I feel much the same way you do about some of the wierd race/class combos...</p><p></p><p>But after getting earthdawn, I got a new appreciation for SOME of the wierd race and class combos...Earthdawn does a very good job of making "monster" races interesting, and showed me a new perspective..ANd I like the ED (2E) rules better than 3E, so I'd just run that instead of D20...But that game made me see some of the "wierd" stuff in a better light...Dwarves, Elves, Trolls, Orks, etc....</p><p></p><p>You might also looking into running something VERY different...but that is D20...CoC, StarWars, Wheel of Time (where PC's are almost all human, and the one "monster" race is very cool)...Or a D20 Supers or Pulp game..these things often re-vitalize and re-fresh ones imagination..Then you might come back to 3E with a different perspective...</p><p></p><p>3E is a love-hate affair for me, so I understand.. I wouldn't mind playing, but I always DM and I don't really care for running the game...My group plays many different systems (including older versions of D&D), so that we all don't get "bored" with D&D...</p><p></p><p>Take a break, get a new perspective...</p><p></p><p>Or get new players <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JeffB, post: 324172, member: 518"] I understand Flexor...I don't think GH ports well to 3E whether it's offical or not. That being said, WOTC has really turned the Realms around. They have fixed alot of the "problems" that many people had with the setting in the last 6 or 7 years of it's life under 2E rules. I can't say that I like EVERYTHING they did...but IMO it's an improvement to the majority of the 2E era (my personal fave "generation" of the Realms is prior to 2E, but that's me). And yes Scarred Lands is cool, I've bought a few items in the past, and even thought of running a campaign..but eventually sold it..I simply did not like having references to 5 other books for monsters, and gods, and PRclasses, and..etc. Points for FR as all supplements aren't referenced (other than the Monsters of Faerun, and even when they do reference those monsters, they give substitutes for those who might not have it). Kalamr would be my first choice..it's a bit lower magic than either GH or FR but is rich in detail. AGain though, your problem is that these are ALL deisgned around 3E/D20...so you will see Dwarven monks, and half-orc sorcerors and all that "3E attitude" stuff. Don't feel bad about switching systems though..if everyone agrees go for it... Personally I feel much the same way you do about some of the wierd race/class combos... But after getting earthdawn, I got a new appreciation for SOME of the wierd race and class combos...Earthdawn does a very good job of making "monster" races interesting, and showed me a new perspective..ANd I like the ED (2E) rules better than 3E, so I'd just run that instead of D20...But that game made me see some of the "wierd" stuff in a better light...Dwarves, Elves, Trolls, Orks, etc.... You might also looking into running something VERY different...but that is D20...CoC, StarWars, Wheel of Time (where PC's are almost all human, and the one "monster" race is very cool)...Or a D20 Supers or Pulp game..these things often re-vitalize and re-fresh ones imagination..Then you might come back to 3E with a different perspective... 3E is a love-hate affair for me, so I understand.. I wouldn't mind playing, but I always DM and I don't really care for running the game...My group plays many different systems (including older versions of D&D), so that we all don't get "bored" with D&D... Take a break, get a new perspective... Or get new players :) [/QUOTE]
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