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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voneth" data-source="post: 325521" data-attributes="member: 1016">I see some conflicting messages here. Perhaps the one point not covered is not that Greyhawk was rewritten to fit 3E, but that the original Greyhawk was written so that the arbitrary limits set in 1E made sense in that game world. So ironically you are now attributing this “gameworld” fluff to a world that probably would have been much different if 3e had been the 1e. That being said, however, I support your DM decision to limit races to certain classes for fictional cultures, that’s your prerogative for your gameworld.  Make your “I don’t want to create a cliché character” roleplayer come up with a very good backstory on his unique creation (and make sure it has plenty of story hooks for later) That way the character is truly different, not just an excuse to access combinations of abilities you cut off with you race/class choices. On the other hand …The feeling that people are “rising in classes” too fast, is purely a nostalgia thing from the old game mechanics, not a “gameworld” thing. Trust this from a fellow who is not a fan of the leveling system. I used to start off old DND games at higher levels so that I could maintain a consistent power level for a while because I am not a fan of the rags/riches and novice/master function that a lot of other people like about DND. (IMO, I like to start with competent PCs because I run a game of heroes, not newbies) and then I discovered other advancement systems I liked better. The new system starts off characters as more competent, I just happen to start them off at lower levels than I used (4th compared to the 7th I used to). And I assume also that a lot of these “kewl powers” are basically feats, right?I am sort of surprised that the “king of B&P gaming” would be so worried about the “feel of a game world.” Dude, grab characters and do some collaterals damage. I suggest you look into Hackmaster! it basicly started as a spoof of 1E for 3E and then its popularity expanded into a cult classic in its own right. I think you should check it out instead of Scarred Lands. If you like 1E, once you see the covers to Hackmaster suppliments, you will be in love once again. On the other hand, even the man himself, GG, approves of WotC's 3E DND because it brings DND back to its gaming roots (grrr! What is this c**p about storylines! It’s only a game, MY game! Grrr!) well, that and he and his sons can continue to make money off the game system he created without having to deal corporate c**p.</blockquote>

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