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<blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 6015112" data-attributes="member: 6698278"><p>Since a games sole purpose is fun. I know if it's good or bad for me with 100% accuracy and thats all that matters. I agree though that this is subjective.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think few people truly think any edition is perfect. Rather they like one better than another. Again thats back to the subjectivity of it. For me 3e is better than 4e because for me it would be more fun. The exact opposite though might be true for someone else.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I've owned everything since the red box including a lot of 4e. I think it is a myth that all that many PF players didn't buy a single 4e book. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree exact sales figures are off. But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that 4e did significantly worse than 3e sales wise. Not a shocker since Pathfinder exists now and didn't then and PF is at least in the neighborhood sales wise. 4e still sold well by any games standard but D&D.</p><p></p><p></p><p>it's the internet. People are here to debate.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now here is one I totally agree with. The way some people talk abut WOTC why would they ever do business with them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The pre-4e crowd is looking for someone to blame for "their" game being stolen. I though have found that over time I develop a fondness even for my most bitter opponents on these boards and the WOTC boards. I do find it useful despite being acrimonious. You just have to filter. I know myself far better now than I did a year ago when it comes to what I want out of a roleplaying game.</p><p></p><p>4e was the first time I felt the game system failed me. I think my last campaign failed because of the system. All of us just didn't want to keep playing with those rules. Prior to that event, I had never encountered this phenomena.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Emerikol, post: 6015112, member: 6698278"] Since a games sole purpose is fun. I know if it's good or bad for me with 100% accuracy and thats all that matters. I agree though that this is subjective. I think few people truly think any edition is perfect. Rather they like one better than another. Again thats back to the subjectivity of it. For me 3e is better than 4e because for me it would be more fun. The exact opposite though might be true for someone else. I've owned everything since the red box including a lot of 4e. I think it is a myth that all that many PF players didn't buy a single 4e book. I agree exact sales figures are off. But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that 4e did significantly worse than 3e sales wise. Not a shocker since Pathfinder exists now and didn't then and PF is at least in the neighborhood sales wise. 4e still sold well by any games standard but D&D. it's the internet. People are here to debate. Now here is one I totally agree with. The way some people talk abut WOTC why would they ever do business with them. The pre-4e crowd is looking for someone to blame for "their" game being stolen. I though have found that over time I develop a fondness even for my most bitter opponents on these boards and the WOTC boards. I do find it useful despite being acrimonious. You just have to filter. I know myself far better now than I did a year ago when it comes to what I want out of a roleplaying game. 4e was the first time I felt the game system failed me. I think my last campaign failed because of the system. All of us just didn't want to keep playing with those rules. Prior to that event, I had never encountered this phenomena. [/QUOTE]
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