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<blockquote data-quote="Mentat55" data-source="post: 5004828" data-attributes="member: 14840">The Pact Initiate feat only gives you (1) the pact at-will power as an encounter power, (2) the ability to qualify for paragon paths that specify a particular pact, and (3) the ability to use wands/rods/pact blades for warlock and warlock PP powers. Given that, my answers to your questions are:1. I would say no, you do not get a vestige.&nbsp; The primary vestiges appear to be part of the Eldritch Pact class feature of a warlock.&nbsp; I don't think it would be a problem if your DM gave you the augment for one of the primary vestiges, though.However...if you took a &quot;Vestige of&quot; power via the Adept Power feat (or through paragon multiclassing, or something), and used that power, then you could use the augment on your 1/encounter Eyes of the Vestige.&nbsp; However, one could argue that the use of vestiges, regardless of source, may be tied to the Eldritch Pact feature.&nbsp; Hard to say.2. No, because, as you said, you do not have the Warlock's Curse feature.3. I would say yes, that Eyes of the Vestige lets you place a curse on a creature within 3 squares of the target.&nbsp; But then, per the feat Student of Malediction, you could apply your Warlock's Curse damage just once, and then all curses end.&nbsp; So probably not so useful, though I can think of situations that might crop up where you would find benefit.4. No, it does not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mentat55, post: 5004828, member: 14840"] The Pact Initiate feat only gives you (1) the pact at-will power as an encounter power, (2) the ability to qualify for paragon paths that specify a particular pact, and (3) the ability to use wands/rods/pact blades for warlock and warlock PP powers. Given that, my answers to your questions are: 1. I would say no, you do not get a vestige. The primary vestiges appear to be part of the Eldritch Pact class feature of a warlock. I don't think it would be a problem if your DM gave you the augment for one of the primary vestiges, though. However...if you took a "Vestige of" power via the Adept Power feat (or through paragon multiclassing, or something), and used that power, then you could use the augment on your 1/encounter Eyes of the Vestige. However, one could argue that the use of vestiges, regardless of source, may be tied to the Eldritch Pact feature. Hard to say. 2. No, because, as you said, you do not have the Warlock's Curse feature. 3. I would say yes, that Eyes of the Vestige lets you place a curse on a creature within 3 squares of the target. But then, per the feat Student of Malediction, you could apply your Warlock's Curse damage just once, and then all curses end. So probably not so useful, though I can think of situations that might crop up where you would find benefit. 4. No, it does not. [/QUOTE]

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