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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 8899530" data-attributes="member: 6779310">For L5R 5E, you need to learn 4 symbols.For Genesys, 6 symbols and 2 cancellations. For Star Wars, 8 symbols and 2 cancellations (the extra two symbols are for the force die)You don't need to learn the result spaces. Those naturally evolve from understanding the individual axises. Success/failure is one continuum. The newbs I've introduced with Star Wars find it far simpler than the math-focus of D&D 5E. And that far simpler than AD&D.Not a safe assumption to make.I've had several players who disliked the symbolic results, but...one of them was the guy noted for lying about his dice, and it's very quick to catch him in Star Wars... one objected to multi-axis and even multi-grade results. As in, he only wants boolean answers from dice - Yes or No. He hated pendragon, too. And D&D 5E. And Pathfinder. And... (I don't know what games he DOES like.)2 more disliked the large size of pools in Star Wars. (8-12 dice are not uncommon in campaign play)1 disliked that the roll reveals the difficulty before rolling; It's one of my few complaints about genesys/star wars, too, but the other benefits work for me and trump that.</blockquote>