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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nightfly" data-source="post: 9217870" data-attributes="member: 89601">First, please bear in mind that I'm paraphrasing these guys. If you'd heard what they said verbatim, it's possible you would have agreed with them more. I hope I'm doing a good job summarizing what they said, but even the best-intentioned people can screw that up.But also, I respectfully disagree with you. Earlier this year I signed up a Shadowdark adventure that was supposed to be about exploring one of Kelsey's dungeons. Like most SD dungeons, it was fairly short, and given how quick and loose Shadowdark is, I thought the adventure might take about five hours. Alas, no -- after five hours we had not even entered that dungeon. We wasted so much time on less fun stuff, which was not what I had signed up for, that I got bored and dropped out. Keeping that in mind, I'm with Matt. If you want to run a gritty survival hex crawl, then do that. If you don't, don't. Neither path is wrong, but it's bad to promise players A and deliver a bunch of B. Sometimes you should do what Gygax did in Steading of the Hill Giant Chief and just plop the players right in front of the cool thing the adventure is named after.</blockquote>