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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8709988" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>Nothing they’ve done so far compares to this scene from the first season of Daredevil.</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]DS4q5RPCBq0[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>ETA- I chose the extended version I found, because it encapsulates <em>why </em>the handling of the villains is so much better in the Netflix shows. I know that people complained about how the Netflix Marvel series would sometimes "pad out" the run times, but here we see the advantage of being able to linger. That is perfect. Even today, when I think of Kingpin ... I think of him making an omelet. I think of the rows of suits. I think of how everything is perfect and immaculate. I think of the care and the control ... <em>especially</em> the control. And finally, I think of what that control is keeping under wraps. That is a villain. A villain that provokes both sympathy by forcing us to understand .... and terror.</p><p></p><p>Disney+ MCU shows aren't doing that.</p><p></p><p>The villains, roughly, fall into three categories-</p><p>1. Comic Relief. I love the TrackSuit Mafia (Trust a Bro!) as much as the next person, but they aren't ... terrifying.</p><p></p><p>2. The Not Villains. Whether it's the original Loki, the nu-Loki (Sylvie), or variations on the theme (Karli, Yelena, Echo, etc.) you have opposition, but they're just misunderstood or not on the same side or using the wrong means or haven't been redeemed yet.</p><p></p><p>3. The Big Bad. Something something yawn. They aren't very interesting. And if, by some random chance, they accidentally venture into being interesting (<em>cough</em> Agnes) you can be assured they will get a chance to redeem themselves in some fashion in the future and be in category 2.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8709988, member: 7023840"] Nothing they’ve done so far compares to this scene from the first season of Daredevil. [MEDIA=youtube]DS4q5RPCBq0[/MEDIA] ETA- I chose the extended version I found, because it encapsulates [I]why [/I]the handling of the villains is so much better in the Netflix shows. I know that people complained about how the Netflix Marvel series would sometimes "pad out" the run times, but here we see the advantage of being able to linger. That is perfect. Even today, when I think of Kingpin ... I think of him making an omelet. I think of the rows of suits. I think of how everything is perfect and immaculate. I think of the care and the control ... [I]especially[/I] the control. And finally, I think of what that control is keeping under wraps. That is a villain. A villain that provokes both sympathy by forcing us to understand .... and terror. Disney+ MCU shows aren't doing that. The villains, roughly, fall into three categories- 1. Comic Relief. I love the TrackSuit Mafia (Trust a Bro!) as much as the next person, but they aren't ... terrifying. 2. The Not Villains. Whether it's the original Loki, the nu-Loki (Sylvie), or variations on the theme (Karli, Yelena, Echo, etc.) you have opposition, but they're just misunderstood or not on the same side or using the wrong means or haven't been redeemed yet. 3. The Big Bad. Something something yawn. They aren't very interesting. And if, by some random chance, they accidentally venture into being interesting ([I]cough[/I] Agnes) you can be assured they will get a chance to redeem themselves in some fashion in the future and be in category 2. [/QUOTE]
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