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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MPA2000" data-source="post: 7489725" data-attributes="member: 6682107">Greetings, as an former comicbook collector of predominantly Thor and Doctor Strange, I just wanted to chime in.  While it is true that the movie versions are not gods, this was actually borrowed from the alternate universe of marvel comics called, "Thor 2099" and somewhat from "Earth X".  Basically aliens with technology so advanced that they are "indistinguishable from magic".  Although that does not explain the actual powers Loki, Heimdall and later Thor was shown to posses without the use of any weapons.I think some of you young whippersnappers have been spoiled by Epic characters in the now defunct edition.  In any version (except Epic) of D&D any character over 20 is epic level. Given that normal humans can hope to achieve 3rd level and even fewer having reached 9th level named types etc.   In 5e, 20th level is nearly godlike in itself, with characters able to gain ability scores well over 18 and in the 20s. Granted level doesn't mean exactlly the same thing as it did in the old days (ie Basic and AD&D 1 and 2), it is still a a measure of the characters prowess. I guess I don't really understand why you would want to create a group of beings that have the same names as gods, who are already present in 5e?  But it isn't my place to question, it's your creation.  So I will just add, that Asgard does in deed have a population of normal Asgardians.  They have families, tend farms, etc. It quite mirrors the Nordic/Germanic age of living, inspite of the great technology in the halls of Thor, Odin etc.  Most do not have any powers, but are still as strong or stronger than many superheroes.   For example, normal gods in Marvel Comics, could bench press/power lift 30 tons!  Thor could lift over 100 tons.  Which made them superior even to the mythical gods they were reincarnated from.  Whether these alien types, except Thor, can lift 30 tons or even a ton, is up for debate. Since I don't remember any of them having tossed around any cars, trucks or tractors.But whatever you are creating. I wish you well. I use the Immortals from the revised Wrath of the Immortals and I have spoken with Frank Mentzer on another message board about comparing PCs to superheroes. To which he agreed. PC's are indeed the superheroes of their worlds.   The Immortals, IMO would be equivalent to mystical entities like Dormammu or Agammatto, despite their ability to create celestial bodies and even move entire planes!</blockquote>

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