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<blockquote data-quote="Mind of tempest" data-source="post: 8211991" data-attributes="member: 7029233"><p>so need some more fun at the mid-levels okay that will need to be added to the list.</p><p></p><p>I will put that down on the subclass concept list.</p><p></p><p>speaking of which here is what ideas I do have if anyone has better ideas tell me them.</p><p><u>On what should and should not be a tradition</u></p><p><u></u></p><p>I hate the traditions that seem to amount to cool fighting moves and I prefer ones with strong thematic ideas so the way of the shadow could stay mostly intact but a way of the drunken master brakes down into a fighting style. </p><p>will need to really do some research here as this is by far the most difficult area to fix plus good subclasses can make or break a 5e class.</p><p></p><p>organised concepts for subclasses</p><p></p><p>classic monks and such.</p><p></p><p>1the classic Shaolin concept has a classic appeal and has rarely been done properly</p><p></p><p>2 something derived from Sōhei for a more armed and armoured option for the people who love paladins but kind of want a monk plus I do not have to start from scratch as this has appeared before.</p><p>3 something very Dao/Tao as this certainly has parts of it running throughout mystical martial artists in media so it could work plus alchemy could be fun.</p><p>4 a rather different kind of monk turns out a lot of in-universe monks are of particular gods and there is a real-world group I could work from who turns out some of the devotees shiva could work for inspiration will need to look into it especially as to not anger them so not a one to one but it is a better starting point than most for this type</p><p>5 got an idea for a version of the monk class with a more western outlook merging the way of mercy, orphic mysteries style faith, liminality and life/death themes together for a monk that fits into western fantasy better.</p><p></p><p>obviously relate concepts but rather divergent so not likely to be true monks but likely working under the same framework.</p><p>1 some kinda classic wuxia character but not a monk will need to look into this as what binds the wondering martial artist is presently unknown to me.</p><p>2 ninjas always got to have ninjas plus we already have the way of the shadow so it would be a shame to waste it.</p><p>3 Cerulean order this one is going to take a long had explanation but is something largely original taking bits of 4e lore, the four-element monk and its inspiration(last air bender but with a less chosen one vibe.), a bit of the spirit monk order from jade empire and demon binder monks of japan I have the idea of an order of monk-like people whos job it is to deal with spirits, elementals and other extra planer visitors so other mortals do not have to live in fear both plenty of energy styles and some diplomatic abilities for less violent resolutions.</p><p>4no idea right now but more ideas can't be bad, can they?</p><p></p><p>I am fairly certain all my ideas are trash and recommend that others come up with better ideas.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mind of tempest, post: 8211991, member: 7029233"] so need some more fun at the mid-levels okay that will need to be added to the list. I will put that down on the subclass concept list. speaking of which here is what ideas I do have if anyone has better ideas tell me them. [U]On what should and should not be a tradition [/U] I hate the traditions that seem to amount to cool fighting moves and I prefer ones with strong thematic ideas so the way of the shadow could stay mostly intact but a way of the drunken master brakes down into a fighting style. will need to really do some research here as this is by far the most difficult area to fix plus good subclasses can make or break a 5e class. organised concepts for subclasses classic monks and such. 1the classic Shaolin concept has a classic appeal and has rarely been done properly 2 something derived from Sōhei for a more armed and armoured option for the people who love paladins but kind of want a monk plus I do not have to start from scratch as this has appeared before. 3 something very Dao/Tao as this certainly has parts of it running throughout mystical martial artists in media so it could work plus alchemy could be fun. 4 a rather different kind of monk turns out a lot of in-universe monks are of particular gods and there is a real-world group I could work from who turns out some of the devotees shiva could work for inspiration will need to look into it especially as to not anger them so not a one to one but it is a better starting point than most for this type 5 got an idea for a version of the monk class with a more western outlook merging the way of mercy, orphic mysteries style faith, liminality and life/death themes together for a monk that fits into western fantasy better. obviously relate concepts but rather divergent so not likely to be true monks but likely working under the same framework. 1 some kinda classic wuxia character but not a monk will need to look into this as what binds the wondering martial artist is presently unknown to me. 2 ninjas always got to have ninjas plus we already have the way of the shadow so it would be a shame to waste it. 3 Cerulean order this one is going to take a long had explanation but is something largely original taking bits of 4e lore, the four-element monk and its inspiration(last air bender but with a less chosen one vibe.), a bit of the spirit monk order from jade empire and demon binder monks of japan I have the idea of an order of monk-like people whos job it is to deal with spirits, elementals and other extra planer visitors so other mortals do not have to live in fear both plenty of energy styles and some diplomatic abilities for less violent resolutions. 4no idea right now but more ideas can't be bad, can they? I am fairly certain all my ideas are trash and recommend that others come up with better ideas. [/QUOTE]
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