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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8216157" data-attributes="member: 6778210">The point is that you can open up the class a bit more and offer all sorts of martial arts stuff, rather than just the current kung-fu focus.The "mysticism" literally just comes from the eastern martial arts stuff. There aren't any current archetypes beyond the psychic one that don't directly play into some Eastern Martial Arts stuff (and it might; I haven't really looked at it). Even the Path of Mercy is stuff is based around that stuff.I mean, they kind of are. The mystic is stuff is flavoring. Even the Mercy Monk is totally a kung-fu artist.The unarmed fighting style doesn't even compare to the Monk, who actually gets support for it. And the idea that certain "fighting styles" must be "mundane" is already incredibly limiting. Focusing on "mystic" versus "mundane" is an incredibly bad way to look at the class.I mean, you've basically made the "mysticism" inherent to those martial arts as the most important part, so it's a distinction without a difference. In the end, it's incredibly limiting when the concept could be opened up much more.I mean, anyone can technically grapple. Right now it's just not really good at it. But I think Strength grappling for Greco-Roman and Dexterity grappling for stuff like Judo would be a smart fix.Really, the Grappler feat just needs to be better because as it is it's kind of lame. The grappling system, while simple, could also use a bit more definition. <shrug>I think this got unfinished, but no more spellcasting on Rangers would be welcome. Paladins... doable I suppose (Warlock chassis?). I'm all for fewer spellcasters in general, given that something like half the classes are full or half casters.I'd like it if one class didn't own it, either, but 5E is built that way. Simplicity creates lanes in which certain classes just do much better at certain things, and unarmed/unarmored combat is definitely the monk's thing. If it were me, I'd want all martial classes to have burnable resources closer to how the monk is anyways, with monks focusing on finesse, fighters focusing on strength, and barbarians focusing on constitution.But that's a whole system rebuild, at which point I'll just look for a new system. Fixing the Monk in general would make most of the more esoteric mystic stuff optional ribbons, as well as fixing the ki pool bottleneck by either giving a better balance of ki points across the class' lifetime or rebalancing the flavor of the subclasses so that ki isn't as important. I'm more for the latter.</blockquote>

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