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<blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 5612818" data-attributes="member: 10479">I would think just the opposite, in that passive learning is situational.&nbsp; I can learn to swim by being in the water even without a teacher and I can learn from a teacher (formal or otherwise) even away from the water, but without the opportunity for either I don't believe I can become a better swimmer just by occasionally thinking or not even thinking about swimming while walking around doing other things. If I take any given game session and consider how many typical skills come into play, where someone could learn by trial and error or through instruction or even watching another make attempts with a given skill, the list is quite short. Opportunities for passive learning neither seem to abound nor be prevalent but are seemingly rather rare.Tying skills to class is also problematic in many ways.Better to say continue outside . . ?&nbsp; Nothing wrong with it as it has helped us comminucate but your posts have been regarding specific systems or your own additions to them. Again, that's all good because it has certainly helped me understand your points.I don't see that as enough secondhand experience to gain anything in that regard, let alone nearly a third (if I read you right) of the ability of a master just by being in the room, so to speak.&nbsp; If I pick up a few words of a foreign language spoken by a neighbor couple (mind you this is passive, without looking words up in books or asking the neighbors their meaning, simply by hearing them and only sometimes with any context), I would think that negligible relative to even being able to get by in their homeland.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mark CMG, post: 5612818, member: 10479"] I would think just the opposite, in that passive learning is situational. I can learn to swim by being in the water even without a teacher and I can learn from a teacher (formal or otherwise) even away from the water, but without the opportunity for either I don't believe I can become a better swimmer just by occasionally thinking or not even thinking about swimming while walking around doing other things. If I take any given game session and consider how many typical skills come into play, where someone could learn by trial and error or through instruction or even watching another make attempts with a given skill, the list is quite short. Opportunities for passive learning neither seem to abound nor be prevalent but are seemingly rather rare. Tying skills to class is also problematic in many ways. Better to say continue outside . . ? Nothing wrong with it as it has helped us comminucate but your posts have been regarding specific systems or your own additions to them. Again, that's all good because it has certainly helped me understand your points. I don't see that as enough secondhand experience to gain anything in that regard, let alone nearly a third (if I read you right) of the ability of a master just by being in the room, so to speak. If I pick up a few words of a foreign language spoken by a neighbor couple (mind you this is passive, without looking words up in books or asking the neighbors their meaning, simply by hearing them and only sometimes with any context), I would think that negligible relative to even being able to get by in their homeland. [/QUOTE]

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