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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 5617186" data-attributes="member: 5038">And, if it makes no sense for a given character to have access to areas knowledge covered by Arcana. Verisimilitude goes out the window. With 3e you can control this much better to represent the character.  If the characters stop doing adventures that cover certain things for a while, you can represent that by not purchasing skill ranks in those skills and putting them in relevant in skills. In 4e, you are going to have improvement based on the +1/2 even if it makes no sense for the given character.Actually, I didn't defend the tiny number of skills. What I did  was point out that the there were options in the PHB for more skills points (which can be used to get more skills) including an option  that gave a permanent increase of 2 skill points per level (8 at first) and two additional class skills.I do have a problem with the number of skill points listed under the fighter and some of  the other classes and I do think some classes could have slightly expanded skill lists.  However, they gave a solution for the fighter in the PHB (that many DMs ignore it is their own problem).However, the 4e approach is far more drastic than needed to be done, in my opinion, and, definitely, not my preference.  I would have been more satisfied had they stuck with the 3e system, but1. Given more skill points to specific and added a couple of additional skills2. Instituted the Cityscape web enhancement of wilderness/urban skill swaps3. Given a few more examples of class variants4. Maybe shown a little more DM guidance on using common sense with diplomacy or reworked it5. added extended skill checks (UA)/Skill Challenges</blockquote>

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