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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5619276" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I am not saying anyone is WRONG. But look at what you've said, "pretty shoddy" ain't exactly either accurate in my opinion nor is it constructive. Actually I think the way these things were designed in 4e was a very conscious calculated game design decision, elegant, and effective. I don't demand that everyone like it, but really at least people can try to understand the underlying game design issues which were being addressed. Maybe not everyone is going to get it, but no that kind of thing isn't 'reasonable'. I'm perfectly happy to discuss what I see as the theory behind the design, but there's no answering "it's just crap!" It says nothing profound. It may express one person's feelings on the particular subject but what is the point of posting those kinds of statements? Does it win someone some kind of points? lol. Yes, I get it, there are always some in every batch... Again, it is perfectly fine to discuss it, but can we establish a few conversational skills? Can this be educational. Perhaps someone will at least gain some understanding of the why's and wherefores. I don't expect a whole lot of changing of people's taste in games, but at least understand what you're criticizing. It can only bring greater insight.</p></blockquote><p></p>