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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5619915" data-attributes="member: 2067">And if you want to talk about why I think that, and why others might think that, and come to an actual understanding of some of the perceived flaws of 4e (and maybe even why I play two campaigns of it weekly despite its noncombat resolution systems!), I'd welcome the conversation.But step #1 in any constructive conversation is mutual respect.And assuming that I'm being unreasonable is demonstrating a lack of respect. Assuming that your opinion is the only reasonable one is demonstrating a lack of respect. Dismissively laughing at people is demonstrating a lack of respect. And you can't force others to show you respect.You can only hope to earn it by showing that respect, regardless of if you &quot;get anything out of it&quot; or not. So if your reaction to me calling the 4e noncombat rules shoddy is to laugh and be dismissive and assume a defensive position (rather than, perhaps, understanding why I think that), I'm not sure that mutual respect has much of a chance to blossom.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5619915, member: 2067"] And if you want to talk about why I think that, and why others might think that, and come to an actual understanding of some of the perceived flaws of 4e (and maybe even why I play two campaigns of it weekly despite its noncombat resolution systems!), I'd welcome the conversation. But step #1 in any constructive conversation is mutual respect. And assuming that I'm being unreasonable is demonstrating a lack of respect. Assuming that your opinion is the only reasonable one is demonstrating a lack of respect. Dismissively laughing at people is demonstrating a lack of respect. And you can't force others to show you respect. You can only hope to earn it by showing that respect, regardless of if you "get anything out of it" or not. So if your reaction to me calling the 4e noncombat rules shoddy is to laugh and be dismissive and assume a defensive position (rather than, perhaps, understanding why I think that), I'm not sure that mutual respect has much of a chance to blossom. [/QUOTE]

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