Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Mearls: Augmenting the core
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="thedungeondelver" data-source="post: 5635842" data-attributes="member: 34865"><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Here's what I think: I think part of what's being done here is an attempt to offer a "third way" to people who want to play older editions of <strong>D&D</strong>. Now, I'd like to ask that we don't get off on a tangent where someone argues that people who play older editions are financially insignificant, that you can count the numbers of <strong>AD&D</strong> fans on one hand, etc. because we're talking about pen and paper RPGs. Every <em>penny</em> counts in a down hobby in a down economy. <strong>WIZARDS OF THE COAST</strong> can't not notice what <strong>OSRIC</strong> and <strong>PATHFINDER</strong> are taking from them - so even if they'd just pull in a few extra hundred or thousand bucks here and there, it's a win for them.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">So what I see here is them saying "Okay this new system allows all you guys who want your old-school <strong>AD&D</strong> dungeon crawls into the same big tent with people who want near <strong>EXALTED</strong> levels of gaming provided by 4e and onward, and that way everybody's happy because everybody can play the game called <strong>DUNGEONS & DRAGONS</strong> and nobody has to go track down some weird alternative or dig up moldy old books that cost an arm and a leg! Win-win!"</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">I see this failing miserably. The horse has already left the barn, that ship has sailed, that noun has verbed. But what else can they do? Again, in a down economy, in a down hobby, even a couple of minor "cuts" can be deadly, and they have to try and apply as many bandages as possible.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">They're <em>not</em> going to reprint <strong>AD&D</strong>. They're <em>not</em> going to give us the .PDFs back. They're <em>not</em> going to release a rule system that is truly old-school. Introducing a modularity to the rules that permits <strong>AD&D</strong> or 3e style play - <em>IF</em> that's what they're talking about - is all they can do to try and keep their current base and effect a stop-loss of prior players who might still consider coming back. For the record I am not one of these but despite the mechanical nightmare it might be I would appreciate the "goodwill" of such a gesture and might even buy it. I'd appreciate the return of .PDFs more but, again, for various reasons (and don't kid yourselves - piracy ain't one of 'em) they're not going to do that.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thedungeondelver, post: 5635842, member: 34865"] [font=century gothic] Here's what I think: I think part of what's being done here is an attempt to offer a "third way" to people who want to play older editions of [b]D&D[/b]. Now, I'd like to ask that we don't get off on a tangent where someone argues that people who play older editions are financially insignificant, that you can count the numbers of [b]AD&D[/b] fans on one hand, etc. because we're talking about pen and paper RPGs. Every [i]penny[/i] counts in a down hobby in a down economy. [b]WIZARDS OF THE COAST[/b] can't not notice what [b]OSRIC[/b] and [b]PATHFINDER[/b] are taking from them - so even if they'd just pull in a few extra hundred or thousand bucks here and there, it's a win for them. So what I see here is them saying "Okay this new system allows all you guys who want your old-school [b]AD&D[/b] dungeon crawls into the same big tent with people who want near [b]EXALTED[/b] levels of gaming provided by 4e and onward, and that way everybody's happy because everybody can play the game called [b]DUNGEONS & DRAGONS[/b] and nobody has to go track down some weird alternative or dig up moldy old books that cost an arm and a leg! Win-win!" I see this failing miserably. The horse has already left the barn, that ship has sailed, that noun has verbed. But what else can they do? Again, in a down economy, in a down hobby, even a couple of minor "cuts" can be deadly, and they have to try and apply as many bandages as possible. They're [i]not[/i] going to reprint [b]AD&D[/b]. They're [i]not[/i] going to give us the .PDFs back. They're [i]not[/i] going to release a rule system that is truly old-school. Introducing a modularity to the rules that permits [b]AD&D[/b] or 3e style play - [i]IF[/i] that's what they're talking about - is all they can do to try and keep their current base and effect a stop-loss of prior players who might still consider coming back. For the record I am not one of these but despite the mechanical nightmare it might be I would appreciate the "goodwill" of such a gesture and might even buy it. I'd appreciate the return of .PDFs more but, again, for various reasons (and don't kid yourselves - piracy ain't one of 'em) they're not going to do that. [/font] [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Mearls: Augmenting the core
Top