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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6929433" data-attributes="member: 996">Actually, Nerath was an historic fallen empire that might be dropped into any setting as background, and the Nentir Vale was just an example of a small heroic-tier area.     The whole 'points of light' thing was a philosophy, not a setting, even though it got called PoLland, and 4e was, indeed, setting neutral.  So, really, in spite of having a supplement called Greyhawk, was 0D&D and AD&D.  3e defaulted to Greyhawk, 5e, apparently to FR, and the RPG did living Greyhawk and living FR that pushed those settings, respectively.  So it's not so much that D&D hasn't been setting neutral much of the time, it's that the fans don't accept it, and imagine a default or standard setting even when there isn't one.  It looks like WotC has figured that out, with 5e, and settled on FR as the default.  Given the popularity of the novels, it makes sense.  I can't stand it, myself, but it doesn't matter, I've never been big on published settings, and it's easy enough to ignore.It's really so easy to genercise like that.  Outside of FR, call a PDK a 'bannerette,' done. Yes.  Just start with the least-developed options first.  So skipped PH1 classes (Warlord, Psion is you stretch the point), then under-served 5e PH classes (Fighter, Barbarian, Rogue, Sorcerer), then other skipped classes (Shaman, Artificer, Avenger, etc), then, 5+ years out, maybe, classes that are already very option-heavy, like the Cleric & Wizard.And, the 5e PH /is/ the Arcane spell-casters' book.   ;P  I've waited over two, so far, and haven't started nerdraging or edition-warring yet.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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