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<blockquote data-quote="NoWayJose" data-source="post: 5468946" data-attributes="member: 84810"><p>I think it's true that 4E was marketed in a way that directly or indirectly marginalized the 3E fans.</p><p> </p><p>To convince consumers to buy a new model or upgrade, you can a) convince them there's a problem with the original, and/or b) emphasize all the new and improved features, so that you can c) create lots of hype and sell lots of the new product.</p><p> </p><p>Alternatively, you can market the new product as just another variation (ie., a new flavor of chips, a cold water version of Tide, a blu-ray version of the DVD, etc.) with no judgment call on the viability of the original product (which may or may not be slowly phased out over time).</p><p> </p><p>Like 3.5 was to 3.0, 4E was, for the most part, sold and marketed as The New Edition that would fix all that was broken with the earlier edition. As a consequence of this type of marketing, it is not unreasonable that anyone sticking with the original version for whatever reason may feel marginalized.</p><p> </p><p>In contrast, the Essentials D&D was marketed as a parallel option.</p><p> </p><p>So when Mearls tries to assuage feelings by claiming that 'everything is D&D' without acknowledging that some WoTC actions may have been directly or indirectly part of the problem, I can see why some people would consider that disengenious. If Mearls had touched upon WoTC's role in all this, then perhaps his beseechment would have come across as sincere to everyone (and not just to the 'converted') and perhaps this thread would have been spun quite differently?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NoWayJose, post: 5468946, member: 84810"] I think it's true that 4E was marketed in a way that directly or indirectly marginalized the 3E fans. To convince consumers to buy a new model or upgrade, you can a) convince them there's a problem with the original, and/or b) emphasize all the new and improved features, so that you can c) create lots of hype and sell lots of the new product. Alternatively, you can market the new product as just another variation (ie., a new flavor of chips, a cold water version of Tide, a blu-ray version of the DVD, etc.) with no judgment call on the viability of the original product (which may or may not be slowly phased out over time). Like 3.5 was to 3.0, 4E was, for the most part, sold and marketed as The New Edition that would fix all that was broken with the earlier edition. As a consequence of this type of marketing, it is not unreasonable that anyone sticking with the original version for whatever reason may feel marginalized. In contrast, the Essentials D&D was marketed as a parallel option. So when Mearls tries to assuage feelings by claiming that 'everything is D&D' without acknowledging that some WoTC actions may have been directly or indirectly part of the problem, I can see why some people would consider that disengenious. If Mearls had touched upon WoTC's role in all this, then perhaps his beseechment would have come across as sincere to everyone (and not just to the 'converted') and perhaps this thread would have been spun quite differently? [/QUOTE]
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