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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5469047" data-attributes="member: 54877">Microsoft clamps down on their message harder than WotC. They probably spend a bit more on marketing, too. My point there is that, after the fact, you can find people from MS who say highly critical things about prior versions. They are the same things they said in closed door meetings, which is what led to the changes in the first place. For why we don't find out about them, see the clamp. So I guess I'm saying that we could get better messaging from WotC if they got themselves a clamp. However, I'd prefer to have the information, rather than nothing but preapproved marketing speak--whatever trouble it causes. And remember what topic we are in. If we go with what ByronD said earlier, then should not have all those people that got cheesed at WotC's comments simply have shrugged it off as an expression of preferences? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious    :]" data-shortname=":]" /> As for officially supported, there is officially supported and then there is "officially supported". MS doesn't have any choice with operating systems--too many units. Visual Studio? Don't make me laugh! I'm working on a project right now in VS 2010--because the components I needed were broken in VS 2005, promised a fix, never fixed, and finally quitely removed from that edition when 2008 arrived. And I just spent the last two days tracking down an "optional" component needed to make a VS 2010 feature work. You can include the feature without that component and it will run. It just won't work. That's roughly equivalent to WotC deciding that the 3E bard and ranger needed work, promising a fix, including the fluff and headers for the new versions in 3.5, promising to get you the new mechanics any day now, and then when 4E arrives, telling you just to switch to that if you want a working bard or ranger. (Not that the 3E bard and ranger were that bad.) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I think WotC's piracy concerns are vastly inflated beyond reason, especially with the 3.* OGL documents out there anyway, nevermind PF.  I'd say it would be worth their while to put some older stuff out there on PDF, just to quit listening to that particular complaint.  Or better yet, license someone else to do it, and manage the work.  OTOH, they have to wonder what the new complaint would be, once that one was addressed.  Sometimes, better to stick with the complaint you have ...</blockquote>

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