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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5469905" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>And Mike Mearls statement was quite obviously <strong><em>not</em> </strong>about D&D as a Brand, which is what you're post is pertaining to. He was talking specifically about the feel of the game being D&D regardless of edition or mechanics. My statement is correct in that context, which is also the context of the OP, the post I was responding to, and the general context of the entire thread. If you'd like to change the context of the discussion and talk about the Brand definition of D&D, feel free to start a thread about it...</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>1) I don't care <em>why</em> Mike Mearls is putting that message out. But one can't make such a statement, and then not be prepared for it to generate expectations. If one makes a such a statement with the intention of provoking thought, then one needs to be ready for the thoughts it provokes...whether you like or agree with the generated thoughts or not. One had also better be ready to back their statements up with more than just words. Otherwise, it's at the least an exercise in futility...at the worst yet another PR mistep guaranteed to generate even more ill-will. Customer Ill-Will does equate to lost revenue. One can rail against the percieved unfairness of that until the end of time, and it won't change the fact that it's something that a business must deal with...whether they want to or not.</p><p> </p><p>2) I don't <em>need</em> to do anything I don't want to. I'm a potential customer. Which means WotC <strong><em>needs</em></strong> to listen to and woo <em><strong>Me</strong></em>...if they want my money that is...which is the entire point of their business in the first place.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p> </p><p>3) It may never happen for what you consider are a castle load of <em>good</em> reasons...but it's also due to a castle load of <em>bad</em> reasons.</p><p> </p><p>Fact: Digital subscriptions such as DDI are the future for sustainable financial success in the RPG market.</p><p> </p><p>Fact: Not everyone is going to like every edition.</p><p> </p><p>Fact: There is a significant amount of RPG customers (read as: potential D&D customers) that do not like WotC's current products and are subsequently not spending money on WotC's products.</p><p> </p><p>Possibility: That significant group of potential WotC customers could be as large as, or larger than, their current group of customers.</p><p> </p><p>Fact: But even if not as large or larger, is still a <em>substantial</em> untapped reservoir of potential income.</p><p> </p><p>Fact: Due to Brand recognition and their unique position in the RPG market, only WotC D&D brand has the ability to fully exploit this potential customer base. (Pathfinder has done an incredible job of tapping into this group, but I believe it's only a drop in the proverbial ocean compared to what WotC <em>could do</em> with that group if they chose to.)</p><p> </p><p>Conclusion: The only way to get this pool of potential customers to pay for a DDI subscription, is to provide things on DDI that those potential customers want. Period. Describing those potential customers as <em>"unreasonable"</em>, or making statements such as <em>"never going to happen"</em> is unconstructive and counter-intuitive.</p><p> </p><p>4) Nobody here is calling WotC <em>negligent</em>...except you. Telling a company what they need to do in order to get your money, and telling a company what they are doing that's keeping you from spending money with them...and then voting with your feet and wallet...is not unreasonable. Quite the contrary, it's a basic tenant of our financial system.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p> </p><p>5) Stating that those who want something that you don't are unreasonable, seems unreasonable in it's own right. This makes me intrigued as to your motivations in seeming to want to stop the possibility of such products and services from happening...?</p><p> </p><p>I simply want a service and support that only WotC is capable of providing.</p><p> </p><p>How does the possibility of that service and support being provided, adversely affect you?</p><p> </p><p>If it doesn't adversely affect you, then what is the source of your reticence or objections to such service and support?</p><p> </p><p>Why come along and interject such strong and derogatory statements against those who want something different than <em>only</em> the currently available offerings?</p><p> </p><p>And, if it's simply a matter of not wanting to hear from, or hear about, what I and others like me want...then why are your even reading and replying to such posts? All that you'd need to do is simply ignore them and your problem is solved...</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 5469905, member: 59506"] And Mike Mearls statement was quite obviously [B][I]not[/I] [/B]about D&D as a Brand, which is what you're post is pertaining to. He was talking specifically about the feel of the game being D&D regardless of edition or mechanics. My statement is correct in that context, which is also the context of the OP, the post I was responding to, and the general context of the entire thread. If you'd like to change the context of the discussion and talk about the Brand definition of D&D, feel free to start a thread about it... 1) I don't care [I]why[/I] Mike Mearls is putting that message out. But one can't make such a statement, and then not be prepared for it to generate expectations. If one makes a such a statement with the intention of provoking thought, then one needs to be ready for the thoughts it provokes...whether you like or agree with the generated thoughts or not. One had also better be ready to back their statements up with more than just words. Otherwise, it's at the least an exercise in futility...at the worst yet another PR mistep guaranteed to generate even more ill-will. Customer Ill-Will does equate to lost revenue. One can rail against the percieved unfairness of that until the end of time, and it won't change the fact that it's something that a business must deal with...whether they want to or not. 2) I don't [I]need[/I] to do anything I don't want to. I'm a potential customer. Which means WotC [B][I]needs[/I][/B] to listen to and woo [I][B]Me[/B][/I]...if they want my money that is...which is the entire point of their business in the first place.:erm: 3) It may never happen for what you consider are a castle load of [I]good[/I] reasons...but it's also due to a castle load of [I]bad[/I] reasons. Fact: Digital subscriptions such as DDI are the future for sustainable financial success in the RPG market. Fact: Not everyone is going to like every edition. Fact: There is a significant amount of RPG customers (read as: potential D&D customers) that do not like WotC's current products and are subsequently not spending money on WotC's products. Possibility: That significant group of potential WotC customers could be as large as, or larger than, their current group of customers. Fact: But even if not as large or larger, is still a [I]substantial[/I] untapped reservoir of potential income. Fact: Due to Brand recognition and their unique position in the RPG market, only WotC D&D brand has the ability to fully exploit this potential customer base. (Pathfinder has done an incredible job of tapping into this group, but I believe it's only a drop in the proverbial ocean compared to what WotC [I]could do[/I] with that group if they chose to.) Conclusion: The only way to get this pool of potential customers to pay for a DDI subscription, is to provide things on DDI that those potential customers want. Period. Describing those potential customers as [I]"unreasonable"[/I], or making statements such as [I]"never going to happen"[/I] is unconstructive and counter-intuitive. 4) Nobody here is calling WotC [I]negligent[/I]...except you. Telling a company what they need to do in order to get your money, and telling a company what they are doing that's keeping you from spending money with them...and then voting with your feet and wallet...is not unreasonable. Quite the contrary, it's a basic tenant of our financial system.:erm: 5) Stating that those who want something that you don't are unreasonable, seems unreasonable in it's own right. This makes me intrigued as to your motivations in seeming to want to stop the possibility of such products and services from happening...? I simply want a service and support that only WotC is capable of providing. How does the possibility of that service and support being provided, adversely affect you? If it doesn't adversely affect you, then what is the source of your reticence or objections to such service and support? Why come along and interject such strong and derogatory statements against those who want something different than [I]only[/I] the currently available offerings? And, if it's simply a matter of not wanting to hear from, or hear about, what I and others like me want...then why are your even reading and replying to such posts? All that you'd need to do is simply ignore them and your problem is solved... :erm: [/QUOTE]
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