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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saracenus" data-source="post: 5478925" data-attributes="member: 47839">HolyMan,The short answer to your question is no, 4e and the recent Essentials are not the same as the jump from 3.0 to 3.5 at all.As to your assertion that WotC doesn't want to support the D&D line, I think you would be best served by listening to the 2011 D&D XP Product Seminar here:<a href="http://thetome.podbean.com/2011/01/30/tome-ddxp-special-product-seminar/" target="_blank">Tome  Blog Archive  Tome DDXP Special: Product Seminar</a>Now, will this change in how products are produced, marketed, and delivered ultimately be successful? That is a completely different discussion.But this is all again big meta issues of how a business is run, does this really effect your enjoyment of playing D&D? As a DM or a player do you really sweat this when you sit down at the table?I can say that the vast majority of folks out there don't.One thing I make clear to any DM that sits down at a table for me when I am organizing games here locally, "How you feel about company X or product y is not as important as providing those who sit at your table a good time."We have has several very good judges who couldn't and they bowed out gracefully and ran other things (Shadowrun Missions is very popular at one store around here).I know one of the folks that helped birth the Ashes of Ashes (Convention only Dark Sun Living Campaign) because they were not satisfied by Living Forgotten Realms or D&D Encounters. This was a big hit at D&D XP. I can tell you the success of that campaign's debut has shown the folks running LFR (and WotC folk that played at their tables) a different way to do a Living Campaign.Don't get me wrong, I sometimes marvel/despair at the stumbles and mistakes that WotC has made with D&D of late. I just have a hard time constantly arguing about it. It makes me tired and sad. It makes me not want to play because of all the negativity that bleeds out. Then I shake it off and go pick up some dice and rediscover my gamer happy by playing or DMing.I personally think all the energy that is used to fight the edition wars (or the equally poisonous "WotC is the root of all evil" meme) could be better spent coming up with cool ideas that advance the hobby and make things better for all.Stalker0 was not satisfied with skill challenges in 4e (and wanted to adapt them for 3e) made a positive contribution by coming up with a solution. I continually get inspiration by reading Piratecat's campaign thread.I said that this forum is not D&D. I stand by that. But it can be more than a battlefield for fighting over the scraps of RPG territory.At the end of the day I have two questions I have to ask myself, did I make my hobby better and did I have fun doing it?Otherwise, why I am I wasting my time with something I don't wan to positively participate in or enjoy?My two coppers,</blockquote>

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