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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nnms" data-source="post: 5491444" data-attributes="member: 83293">Right.  So let yourself be a good DM.  Heinsoo specifically said that a sufficiently good DM can compensate for this issue.  So let yourself be that sufficiently good DM. What I'm talking about is situation not plot (where a script might come into play).  I'm not talking about rails or scripts or anything.  I'm a completely imrpov DM myself.  The spells available in 3.x to sufficiently high level characters means that a DM has to drastically compensate for their ability to solve mysteries, bypass barriers, etc.,.  As well it means that many interesting situations are no longer appropriate or viable for play.Now imagine your not as good a DM as you are.  Imagine someone else on the spectrum of DM experience/ability.  What if someone can't as easily recognize how their situation is instantly solved by one declaration of spell casting?  Is the answer really to have one bad session after another until they fight their way to your level of competency?No.  People are trying to tell you that 4E doesn't do what you think it does.  I run 4E totally unscripted, 100% improv.  I have no preplanned idea of what might happen or who might do what.  And 4E does not in any way work against me in this regard.What it does do, is expand my options when it comes to making interesting situations.  I can spend less time thinking about the implications of UltraDivination and spells like it and more time thinking about the situation and conflict between different characters and their motivations (PCs and NPCs).  I find 4E does the exact opposite of what you've assessed it as doing.I wish that were the case.  I have another campaign starting where we want to play a very traditional mega/campaign dungeon exploration game and I'm brainstorming like mad to figure out the best way to make 4E work in the same manner as Basic DnD and 1st Edition do for this type of game.   4E has pretty jarring shifts between different modes of play that make it less than ideal for exploration heavy dungeon campaigns. Exactly.  The system lets down those who don't have the forsight and experience at a certain level.  You and I might have no problem realizing that those spells will instantly resolve the dramatic situation with one word.  But what about the lesser skilled DMs? This sums it up perfectly.  I have one question:What if you could have a system that supported you rather than one you fight against until you're strong enough to beat it into submission?</blockquote>

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