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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5495580" data-attributes="member: 42582">Although my comment was about 2nd ed and not 3E, here are ust a handful of ways in which 3E doesn't support "heroic protagonism" in the same sort of way that 4e does:*it has no second wind rules, and so doesn't support the same dynamics of combat as does 4e;*it has apparent inconsistencies in its combat rules, so that a high level fighter is able to survive falls, swipes from dragons, etc that would kill any lesser being (ie hit points aren't a particularly gritty damage mechanic) but has intricate and gritty grapple rules, which make it hard for a high-level fighter to wrestle giants;*it has no mechanic, other than GM handwaving, for telescoping the exploration elements of play (information gathering, searching, travelling etc) into a challenge that is fairly quick to resolve but still delivers opportunities for player decision making that produce interesting outcomes in the fiction;*all the stuff currently being discussed on the wizards vs warriors threads on General.</blockquote>