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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CuRoi" data-source="post: 5502828" data-attributes="member: 98032"><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> speak with Dead? An "I win DnD Spell?" or "Easy Button" spell? Really? From the SRD (I'm sorry to quote the SRD - I know it can be annoying):"Answers are usually brief, cryptic, or repetitive. If the creature’s <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/description.htm#alignment" target="_blank">alignment</a> was different from yours, the corpse gets a <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatStatistics.htm#will" target="_blank">Will save</a> to resist the spell as if it were alive."  Really? To me thats actual story and plot development GOLD. That can't possibly end a murder mystery all it can do is create some really darn intriguing threads to follow. Who killed you?Ghostly moan "The one named of colors"Where did they kill you?Ghostly moan "In the house of many rooms"What did they kill you with?Ghostly moan "A blow to the head" So...who's game of Clue did I just ruin? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> Seriously though, in practice as a DM I use that spell to develop useful riddles which players might be able to jump right to the killer but usually these tidbits just help confirm evidence as they move along. If you never read the description and just assumed "Ahhh this means free flowing two way communication with the deceased! I'm ruined!" then yes, youre screwed.  Can't they still raise dead in 4e? If I recall its much cheaper than it was or something? How does that not just ruin a murder mystery more than a vague disembodied voice?    I'll need to check that out for sure, sounds intriguing. And I don't doubt it - as we have seen in this thread, peopel will take whatever RPG and make whatever they and their group want to out of it, so divergent approahces seem to be par for the course. Thats perfectly fine and keeps it all interesting.    Well, as mentioned, I can see how a certain style could produce that with 4e - or any RPG for that matter. I just don't think the target audience for 4e was people with that style, if that makes sense. Again, just conjecture here, no "proof" or quotes or anything to support that.</blockquote>

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