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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3379083" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Look, I wasn't bagging on the G series of modules at all. My specific beef was T Foster's assertion that some versions of D&D promote role play.</p><p></p><p>Ballocks.</p><p></p><p>No version of D&D, including the current one, give any benefit at all to role play. None. Zip. Zero. 3e gives a glancing nod in the direction with ad hoc xp awards, but, even that's buried at the back of the xp awards section. If I role play my cleric to such heights of wonder than the other players (not their characters, but the actual players) instantly convert to the worship of my diety, the rules give me exactly zero reward.</p><p></p><p>And it never has. </p><p></p><p>The only thing you generally get xp for is killing stuff. You used to get it for taking its treasure too, but, that's gone now. Even 2e, which gets touted as the "role players D&D" only gave bonus xp to the fighter for killing stuff. Nothing else.</p><p></p><p>If your group role played your way through G1, more power to you. Bravo. Excellent. That's great. But, it had exactly nothing to do with the system you were playing and everything to do with the group. That my group when Texas Chainsaw Massacre on the giants and everything else in there is good on me. We had a blast. But, in no case did either of us do anything wrong. ((Well, to be honest, in my case, we likely did all sorts of things wrong by the rules, but that's a different issue <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )) </p><p></p><p>I find it bewildering when people try to tout any version of D&D as a high rp system. There's a reason D&D has been seen as the quintessential beer and pretzels game. The game has always been about killing stuff and taking its loot, at least the mechanics have been.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3379083, member: 22779"] Look, I wasn't bagging on the G series of modules at all. My specific beef was T Foster's assertion that some versions of D&D promote role play. Ballocks. No version of D&D, including the current one, give any benefit at all to role play. None. Zip. Zero. 3e gives a glancing nod in the direction with ad hoc xp awards, but, even that's buried at the back of the xp awards section. If I role play my cleric to such heights of wonder than the other players (not their characters, but the actual players) instantly convert to the worship of my diety, the rules give me exactly zero reward. And it never has. The only thing you generally get xp for is killing stuff. You used to get it for taking its treasure too, but, that's gone now. Even 2e, which gets touted as the "role players D&D" only gave bonus xp to the fighter for killing stuff. Nothing else. If your group role played your way through G1, more power to you. Bravo. Excellent. That's great. But, it had exactly nothing to do with the system you were playing and everything to do with the group. That my group when Texas Chainsaw Massacre on the giants and everything else in there is good on me. We had a blast. But, in no case did either of us do anything wrong. ((Well, to be honest, in my case, we likely did all sorts of things wrong by the rules, but that's a different issue :) )) I find it bewildering when people try to tout any version of D&D as a high rp system. There's a reason D&D has been seen as the quintessential beer and pretzels game. The game has always been about killing stuff and taking its loot, at least the mechanics have been. [/QUOTE]
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