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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ourph" data-source="post: 3389793" data-attributes="member: 20239">As a matter of fact, it is about outliers.  Refresh your memory about what was posted upthread and you'll see that the original issue was bad DMs, not mediocre DMs, not average DMs, not good DMs with a few weak points but bad DMs who make bad calls and aren't able to use their own judgement to make rulings that seem fair to their players.  Other posters made the claim that a system that relied on DM judgement was weak because it allowed DMs with really poor judgement to make players miserable.  My counterpoint is that I've never seen a DM with really poor judgement become a good DM just because he's using a different ruleset.  All rulesets still require the DM to use judgement and if a DM's capability in that area is poor his ability to use any system will still be poor, in my experience.As I said above, I take you at your word.Not at all, but your points really don't speak to the issue that I was addressing anyway.  You keep telling me D&D does X for you, so how can I not believe that D&D is capable of doing X.  But I'm saying I've never seen D&D do Y.  And since you don't seem to have a problem with Y or need help with Y, your experiences don't convince me of anything to do with Y.</blockquote>