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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kobold Boots" data-source="post: 7759141" data-attributes="member: 92239">I think that you and I have conversations where we spend a lot of time drilling into minutiae that neither one of us intends to elaborate on based on the context of the posts that are quoted.  My overarching point right now (this post) is that with the intention of the DM as designer of last resort in every version of the rules that any table's actual experience is different from any other table's.  It makes conversations about rules and validity nearly impossible when talking about practical application and only useful in the theoretical realm of a table where only "rules as written" are used.The rules don't exist in a vacuum.  No one really plays only rules as written, so whether or not action resolution mechanics establish a difference between systems, doesn't really matter.-- personal opinion alert --However, I do think that players who are inclined to some degree of anti-social behavior are going to look for reasons to not listen to their DM, and similarly those inclined DMs won't listen to their players.  In those cases there's a high degree of passive aggressive behavior that puts the rules in the middle -- because god forbid anyone takes fault on themselves.If I were to have a horse in the race, I'd be betting this phenomena is what Mearls is talking about and what they're not designing for anymore.  Let the DM deal with that sort of thing was smart in the beginning and it's smart now.KB</blockquote>

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