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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7759486" data-attributes="member: 23751">No man.&nbsp; It doesn't match reality, because in reality there aren't plants that move and eat you, disguised as normal plants.&nbsp; I don't have to worry in a forest that a treant might want to kill me.&nbsp; It doesn't say that you have to wait until you see a weapon coming for your face, either.&nbsp; A potential threat is still a threat to you.&nbsp; A dragon sitting on a hill is only a potential threat.&nbsp; Are you telling me that it can get surprise on a group of wary adventurers?&nbsp; That's absurd.&nbsp; The rule is not clearly explained, which is fine.&nbsp; Vague rules are in line with 5e stated design goal.And as I show in the post above, that person is flat out wrong.&nbsp; Initiative is not an opposed check, so the rules for contests don't apply to it.&nbsp; Initiative is simply a way to see who goes first.First half of the sentence, &quot;You can communicate however you are able,&quot; which means that there are no limits to the ways you can communicate, so long as you are able.&nbsp; The second half of the sentence, &quot;through brief utterances and gestures,&quot; limiting you to exactly two ways to communicate.&nbsp; If you have telepathy, you can't use it as it's not one of the two ways set forth, except that you can because you can communicate however you are able!!&nbsp; It contradicts itself very clearly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7759486, member: 23751"] No man. It doesn't match reality, because in reality there aren't plants that move and eat you, disguised as normal plants. I don't have to worry in a forest that a treant might want to kill me. It doesn't say that you have to wait until you see a weapon coming for your face, either. A potential threat is still a threat to you. A dragon sitting on a hill is only a potential threat. Are you telling me that it can get surprise on a group of wary adventurers? That's absurd. The rule is not clearly explained, which is fine. Vague rules are in line with 5e stated design goal. And as I show in the post above, that person is flat out wrong. Initiative is not an opposed check, so the rules for contests don't apply to it. Initiative is simply a way to see who goes first. First half of the sentence, "You can communicate however you are able," which means that there are no limits to the ways you can communicate, so long as you are able. The second half of the sentence, "through brief utterances and gestures," limiting you to exactly two ways to communicate. If you have telepathy, you can't use it as it's not one of the two ways set forth, except that you can because you can communicate however you are able!! It contradicts itself very clearly. [/QUOTE]

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