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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7759955" data-attributes="member: 23751">And you are ignoring where the contest has to be a direct opposition where only one can succeed, which initiative isn't.  And you are ignoring where one is trying to prevent another from another from accomplishing a goal.  Initiative isn't a goal.  You are also ignoring that initiative isn't even about two people against each other much of the time.  The goblin over here who is going to attack the wizard rolled lower than the fighter who wants to go after the ogre.  The goblin and the fighter aren't even in a contest of any sort, let alone a directly opposing.Except that by both RAW and Sage Advice, there isn't even a single contest, let alone 45.  I understand what you are saying, but you are wrong by both RAW and Sage Advice.Or multiple tweets.  He hasn't shown any shyness about using more than one tweet on a subject.  Regardless of the reason, though, both RAW which sets forth the two conditions for contests, which initiative fails to meet, and Sage Advice which says it's not a contest, means that unless you are going to make a house rule, it's not a contest.</blockquote>