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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7760097" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Gotta love when people take things out of context in an attempt to win the internetz.</p><p></p><p>The context for that statement is the first part that you ignored up there...</p><p></p><p>"Sometimes one character’s or monster’s efforts are directly opposed to another’s. This can occur when both of them are trying to do the same thing <strong>and only one can succeed</strong>, such as attempting to snatch up a magic ring that has fallen on the floor. This situation also applies when one of them is trying to prevent the other one from accomplishing a goal—for example, <strong>when a monster tries to force open a door that an adventurer is holding closed</strong>. In situations like these, the outcome is determined by a special form of ability check, called a contest."</p><p></p><p>Exactly two situations are given that can be called contests by RAW. </p><p></p><p>The first one involves a contest where only one can succeed, such as snatching a ring off of the ground. If you win the roll, you succeed. The first portion of the part you took out of context. They key part is bolded here, but I'll repeat it for the 20th times since you didn't see it the first 19 times I posted it, mentioned it, and you just quoted it. </p><p></p><p>The second part comes when trying to prevent someone from doing something, like holding a door shut while the other is trying to open it. If you win, you prevent the other one from succeeding. They key part is bolded here, but I'll repeat it for the 20th times since you didn't see it the first 19 times I posted it, mentioned it, and you just quoted it. </p><p></p><p>Will you stop pretending you can't understand something so simple, or that somehow your argument overcomes both RAW and Sage Advice that says you are wrong? Or else go learn about context?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7760097, member: 23751"] Gotta love when people take things out of context in an attempt to win the internetz. The context for that statement is the first part that you ignored up there... "Sometimes one character’s or monster’s efforts are directly opposed to another’s. This can occur when both of them are trying to do the same thing [B]and only one can succeed[/B], such as attempting to snatch up a magic ring that has fallen on the floor. This situation also applies when one of them is trying to prevent the other one from accomplishing a goal—for example, [B]when a monster tries to force open a door that an adventurer is holding closed[/B]. In situations like these, the outcome is determined by a special form of ability check, called a contest." Exactly two situations are given that can be called contests by RAW. The first one involves a contest where only one can succeed, such as snatching a ring off of the ground. If you win the roll, you succeed. The first portion of the part you took out of context. They key part is bolded here, but I'll repeat it for the 20th times since you didn't see it the first 19 times I posted it, mentioned it, and you just quoted it. The second part comes when trying to prevent someone from doing something, like holding a door shut while the other is trying to open it. If you win, you prevent the other one from succeeding. They key part is bolded here, but I'll repeat it for the 20th times since you didn't see it the first 19 times I posted it, mentioned it, and you just quoted it. Will you stop pretending you can't understand something so simple, or that somehow your argument overcomes both RAW and Sage Advice that says you are wrong? Or else go learn about context? [/QUOTE]
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