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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7760135" data-attributes="member: 23751">Because higher dex means that often you will just happen to go faster than others, but not always.It's not an application of the contest mechanics, because like initiative, a race is an INDIRECT opposition, not a DIRECT opposition like arm wrestling would be.&nbsp; The contest mechanics are only for direct opposition.It's the first line, man.&nbsp; It doesn't get more salient than to be the entire way a contest is determined.&quot;Sometimes one character’s or monster’s efforts are directly opposed to another’s.&quot;&nbsp; that sets the contest for the entire section, everything mentioned and described also goes along with the direct opposition mentioned.&nbsp; If you want to include indirect opposition like races and initiative in the contest rules, you can add it.&quot;To say that two opponents in a footrace are not directly opposed or that it's not the case that only one can succeed (at coming first) seems strained to me. (Compare eg an exam, where each is trying to do his/her best but neither is trying to best[/I the other in a head-to-head competition. And then compare an exam to a buzzer-based quiz show. Etc.)&quot;I am not directly opposing anyone on the game show.&nbsp; The only thing I am doing is trying solo to hit a buzzer.&nbsp; There is no opposition at all in an exam, direct or indirect.Not really.&nbsp; Pure arm strength is often different than full body strength.&nbsp; You can also be off, distracted, or what have you.&nbsp; If the strength scores are significantly different, I won't have a roll.&nbsp; But if they are within say 4 points of each other, that's close enough to put the outcome in doubt.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7760135, member: 23751"] Because higher dex means that often you will just happen to go faster than others, but not always. It's not an application of the contest mechanics, because like initiative, a race is an INDIRECT opposition, not a DIRECT opposition like arm wrestling would be. The contest mechanics are only for direct opposition. It's the first line, man. It doesn't get more salient than to be the entire way a contest is determined. "Sometimes one character’s or monster’s efforts are [B]directly opposed[/B] to another’s." that sets the contest for the entire section, everything mentioned and described also goes along with the direct opposition mentioned. If you want to include indirect opposition like races and initiative in the contest rules, you can add it. "To say that two opponents in a footrace are not [I]directly opposed[/I] or that it's not the case that [I]only one can succeed[/I] (at coming first) seems strained to me. (Compare eg an exam, where each is trying to do his/her best but neither is trying to [I]best[/I the other in a head-to-head competition. And then compare an exam to a buzzer-based quiz show. Etc.)" I am not directly opposing anyone on the game show. The only thing I am doing is trying solo to hit a buzzer. There is no opposition at all in an exam, direct or indirect. Not really. Pure arm strength is often different than full body strength. You can also be off, distracted, or what have you. If the strength scores are significantly different, I won't have a roll. But if they are within say 4 points of each other, that's close enough to put the outcome in doubt.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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