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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7760318" data-attributes="member: 23751">That doesn't matter, though.  A similar, even the same exact mechanical resolution, does not make it the same thing.  The attack mechanic and ability check mechanic are identical.  Both are d20+modifiers equal or greater than DC = success.  Less than = failure.  Jeremy Crawford confirmed them as identical mechanics for different categories of actions.  That initiative is similar to a contest, does not make it a contest.  It's still indirect opposition at best, and a contest requires direct opposition.It's not a matter if you want to oppose the efforts of the monsters or not.  That opposition(or not) comes with attacks, spells, running, etc.  Initiative itself is not opposition to them, since you are free to act how you like, which includes running your behind off or trying to talk to them instead of opposing anyone.You might be right, or perhaps not.  I try not to assume intent on things like this that don't really matter. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>