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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7171220" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Okay, I know I'm in a bad emotional headspace right now because of real life stuff, but I don't get what you are saying. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who cares if 2e was more brutal and 4e was more superheroic? What does it matter? IT kind of feels like saying Star Trek has better science than Star Wars. You have a point but that doesn't change the conversation. </p><p></p><p></p><p>YOu want psionic monsters where everything you encounter is a deadly threat to the party. Fine, a new Darksun could potentially do that, but if you want to strip all magic away from the game except for the new defiler wizard class and the new preserver magic class... well, you're kind of out of luck. You've only got around five options for subclasses at that point (I built an all non-magic team once, couldn't even get six characters and that was including the monk, ended up with a ranger as the sixth person). The game doesn't support that like it used to. And, I doubt they are going to do a lot to alter that in a new book. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't know where I'm going with this anymore, I'm too distracted. 2e Darksun was 2e, you aren't going to get anywhere if you except nothing more or less mechanically. I like the idea of people being able to choose to give up defiling if you change their outlook, or that a persever could end up defiling. Perhaps make defiling a default and weaken spells if you preserve, but I don't think it serves us to have them made their own class. I don't think it serves us to hew absolutely to the way things used to be instead of looking at how they could end up. There is no point, the people who want 2e Darksun would just go and play 2e Darksun anyways, or adjust things to fit the vision they want anyways. </p><p></p><p>I don't want 2e Darksun, I want 5e Darksun, whatever that ends up looking like.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7171220, member: 6801228"] Okay, I know I'm in a bad emotional headspace right now because of real life stuff, but I don't get what you are saying. Who cares if 2e was more brutal and 4e was more superheroic? What does it matter? IT kind of feels like saying Star Trek has better science than Star Wars. You have a point but that doesn't change the conversation. YOu want psionic monsters where everything you encounter is a deadly threat to the party. Fine, a new Darksun could potentially do that, but if you want to strip all magic away from the game except for the new defiler wizard class and the new preserver magic class... well, you're kind of out of luck. You've only got around five options for subclasses at that point (I built an all non-magic team once, couldn't even get six characters and that was including the monk, ended up with a ranger as the sixth person). The game doesn't support that like it used to. And, I doubt they are going to do a lot to alter that in a new book. I don't know where I'm going with this anymore, I'm too distracted. 2e Darksun was 2e, you aren't going to get anywhere if you except nothing more or less mechanically. I like the idea of people being able to choose to give up defiling if you change their outlook, or that a persever could end up defiling. Perhaps make defiling a default and weaken spells if you preserve, but I don't think it serves us to have them made their own class. I don't think it serves us to hew absolutely to the way things used to be instead of looking at how they could end up. There is no point, the people who want 2e Darksun would just go and play 2e Darksun anyways, or adjust things to fit the vision they want anyways. I don't want 2e Darksun, I want 5e Darksun, whatever that ends up looking like. [/QUOTE]
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