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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahrimon" data-source="post: 7172900" data-attributes="member: 12630">I disagree in that it appears that you are stuck on them being Dragonborn.  Considering that they look nothing like the one dragon on Athas it's much easier to look at that race as simply an elementally(a strong theme in DS) touched race of lizard(common in a desert) men.  Nothing about their racial abilities says dragon that can't simply be explained as an elemental supernatural ability.I'm completely with you that they don't belong if we're going to insist that they are dragon related or a re-imagined dray (drey?).  But as elementally touched lizardmen they work.I look at half-orcs the same.  Orcs are extinct.  But if we take the racial stats of half-orcs and wrap it in the mul's fluff then they work and it saves a little bit of book space.  Not much, but a little.  Gnomes?  They're a tribe of different halflings.  Teiflings?  They're a small tribe of mutated humans that live in a waste area deeply associated with fire.  It's been a while and my memory is a bit rusty but I'm pretty sure that Athas had mutated creatures and other oddities like that in the deep wastes as part of the original box set.While they're not the perfect fit for Half-giants, goliaths do a good enough job for me.I think as long as you look at things from the right point of view and are willing to accept a different story behind it then most anything from the PHB can fit.Spell lists have to change though.  That's a given in my book.</blockquote>

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