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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 2964481" data-attributes="member: 2268">One thing that strikes me as a bit counterproductive, at least if you want an easy game that can be &quot;run out of the box&quot;, is the argument that a monster should/can be statted up with class levels to generate an intended effect/flavour. Of course, given the modular attitude of D&amp;D, it's easy to do so...if you really know the system. If you're a beginner, digging through a few core books, trying to grasp the concept of adding levels to a monster for different effects, and individualizing monsters that way is not so easily digested as simply grabbing the MM, opening it and using a monster as it is presented. That's why it is an advantage if the monsters&nbsp; come complete with their own special effects instead of just the basic frame with the advice to tack on class levels as needed.I mean, with the right combination of templates, classes and prestige classes, you could probably turn an awakened lizard into a dragon by now. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 2964481, member: 2268"] One thing that strikes me as a bit counterproductive, at least if you want an easy game that can be "run out of the box", is the argument that a monster should/can be statted up with class levels to generate an intended effect/flavour. Of course, given the modular attitude of D&D, it's easy to do so...if you really know the system. If you're a beginner, digging through a few core books, trying to grasp the concept of adding levels to a monster for different effects, and individualizing monsters that way is not so easily digested as simply grabbing the MM, opening it and using a monster as it is presented. That's why it is an advantage if the monsters come complete with their own special effects instead of just the basic frame with the advice to tack on class levels as needed. I mean, with the right combination of templates, classes and prestige classes, you could probably turn an awakened lizard into a dragon by now. :lol: [/QUOTE]

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