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<blockquote data-quote="Mad Mac" data-source="post: 2966395" data-attributes="member: 27873"><p>Eh. So the old Ogre Mage is a worthy CR 8 if you stack the deck in it's favor? That's not CR, that's a circumstancial modifier to XP. Like when CR 1/4 Kobolds kill a bunch of 5th level characters with their super-duper traps of doom. Doesn't mean Kobolds are suddenly CR 8 critters. </p><p></p><p> I mean seriously, an Ogre Mage can cast charm person and disguise himself. That's not much better than a 1st level Sorcerer. And I'm sure a determined enough DM can turn that 1st level Sorcerer into a horrifying mastermind with enough mind-bending plot manipulation. I guess Sorc's are just massively under CR'd, or something. Apparently I've just been going about this CR thing all wrong. On reflection, a mid-level Sorc has access to powers a mere Ogre Mage could only dream of! He'd be unstoppable!</p><p></p><p> Or not. </p><p></p><p>Ogre Mage: Wa Ha Ha Ha Ha! You fools! I've been following you all this time, tying your shoelaces together, spitting in your food, and even telling every barmaids within 20 miles about your little fungus problem! My dire villiany know's no limits! Bow before me in fear! Grovel beneath my...</p><p></p><p>*Party Fighter bops him over the head with a large wooden mallet*</p><p></p><p>Ogre Mage: You brute! How could you! I'm going home! *turns invisible and fly's home crying like a girlie girl*</p><p></p><p>Fighter: Can we trade him in for a new archvillian? If he keeps hanging around like this, our street cred is going to be shot. People will think we're friends with that twerp. </p><p></p><p>Thief: It's not that bad.</p><p></p><p>Fighter: No?</p><p></p><p>Theif: Nah, I totally gave him an atomic wedgie when he wasn't looking.</p><p></p><p>Mage: And I put an arcane mark on his forehead that means "Loser!"</p><p></p><p>Fighter: Heh. Next time lets give him swirlies in the girls bathroom. </p><p></p><p>Thief: Won't he just turn to gas and fly away?</p><p></p><p>Fighter: Even better. I can stick him in my fart jar.</p><p></p><p>Thief: Your what? </p><p></p><p>Fighter: Don't ask.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mad Mac, post: 2966395, member: 27873"] Eh. So the old Ogre Mage is a worthy CR 8 if you stack the deck in it's favor? That's not CR, that's a circumstancial modifier to XP. Like when CR 1/4 Kobolds kill a bunch of 5th level characters with their super-duper traps of doom. Doesn't mean Kobolds are suddenly CR 8 critters. I mean seriously, an Ogre Mage can cast charm person and disguise himself. That's not much better than a 1st level Sorcerer. And I'm sure a determined enough DM can turn that 1st level Sorcerer into a horrifying mastermind with enough mind-bending plot manipulation. I guess Sorc's are just massively under CR'd, or something. Apparently I've just been going about this CR thing all wrong. On reflection, a mid-level Sorc has access to powers a mere Ogre Mage could only dream of! He'd be unstoppable! Or not. Ogre Mage: Wa Ha Ha Ha Ha! You fools! I've been following you all this time, tying your shoelaces together, spitting in your food, and even telling every barmaids within 20 miles about your little fungus problem! My dire villiany know's no limits! Bow before me in fear! Grovel beneath my... *Party Fighter bops him over the head with a large wooden mallet* Ogre Mage: You brute! How could you! I'm going home! *turns invisible and fly's home crying like a girlie girl* Fighter: Can we trade him in for a new archvillian? If he keeps hanging around like this, our street cred is going to be shot. People will think we're friends with that twerp. Thief: It's not that bad. Fighter: No? Theif: Nah, I totally gave him an atomic wedgie when he wasn't looking. Mage: And I put an arcane mark on his forehead that means "Loser!" Fighter: Heh. Next time lets give him swirlies in the girls bathroom. Thief: Won't he just turn to gas and fly away? Fighter: Even better. I can stick him in my fart jar. Thief: Your what? Fighter: Don't ask. [/QUOTE]
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